Does everyone understand why Tygart is sketchy?

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  • Horvo
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    Does everyone understand why Tygart is sketchy?

    He was supposed to administer random blood and urine tests to PBF and SSM. He stopped the blood testing 18 days before the fight. He didn't test each fighter the same number of times or on the same days. His explanation was the following.

    "We chose not to test for blood closer to the fight than we did because there was no need to do so. But, of course, if we had some sort of cause or su****ion that meant that we needed to do more blood tests, let's say, five days, or, four days before a fight, then we certainly would have done it," said Tygart.

    During the failed negotiations for a potential March 13 bout against unbeaten Floyd Mayweather, seven-division champion, Manny Pacquiao claimed that he did not want to have blood randomly drawn for drug testing within 14 days of a fight.


    This would be the same as your son's principal saying that they are going to have random drug testing at the school and then it turns out the principal might do extra tests if they have a "su****ion" of your son. That's not random, that's up to the principal's own subjective opinion. It wouldn't be random and it wouldn't be legal.

    That's exactly the same thing Tygart said he did. He would have conducted another test closer to the fight if he had a "su****ion" about one of the fighters. It shouldn't be up to his subjective opinion. Random should mean random, not left to the discretion of Tygart or anyone else that would conduct the tests.
    Last edited by Horvo; 07-11-2011, 07:29 PM.
  • tomhawq
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    #2
    dude, you're provoking a beehive of angry *****s here.

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    • rayb112
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      #3
      Originally posted by Horvo
      He was supposed to administer random blood and urine tests to PBF and SSM. He stopped the blood testing 18 days before the fight. He didn't test each fighter the same number of times or on the same days. His explanation was the following.

      "We chose not to test for blood closer to the fight than we did because there was no need to do so. But, of course, if we had some sort of cause or su****ion that meant that we needed to do more blood tests, let's say, five days, or, four days before a fight, then we certainly would have done it," said Tygart.

      During the failed negotiations for a potential March 13 bout against unbeaten Floyd Mayweather, seven-division champion, Manny Pacquiao claimed that he did not want to have blood randomly drawn for drug testing within 14 days of a fight.


      This would be the same as your son's principal saying that they are going to have random drug testing at the school and then it turns out the principal might do extra tests if they have a "su****ion" of your son. That's not random, that's up to the principal's own subjective opinion. It wouldn't be random and it wouldn't be legal.

      That's exactly the same thing Tygart said he did. He would have conducted another test closer to the fight if he had a "su****ion" about one of the fighters. It shouldn't be up to his subjective opinion. Random should mean random, not left to the discretion of Tygart or anyone else that would conduct the tests.
      What Tygart is saying is that if the blood or urine came back and they thought they needed to do some more testing depending on what they found in the test results then he would have ordered more testing...it is random...meaning that even though they stoped testing 18 days before the fight both fighters could have been tested...the fighters didnt no they werent going to be tested agian...come on man!

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      • | THE KING |
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        #4
        Common sense... you have it. Bravo. I'm sure many here will not understand though.

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        • Kenny MF Powers
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          #5
          Originally posted by rayb112
          What Tygart is saying is that if the blood or urine came back and they thought they needed to do some more testing depending on what they found in the test results then he would have ordered more testing...it is random...meaning that even though they stoped testing 18 days before the fight both fighters could have been tested...the fighters didnt no they werent going to be tested agian...come on man!
          They dont want to get it.

          I guess they cant fathom what the causes of su****ions could be...

          Or that this is after it was said and done. Anyway you look at it to floyd and shane IT WAS RANDOM.

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          • tangalog2200
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            Originally posted by Horvo
            He was supposed to administer random blood and urine tests to PBF and SSM. He stopped the blood testing 18 days before the fight. He didn't test each fighter the same number of times or on the same days. His explanation was the following.

            "We chose not to test for blood closer to the fight than we did because there was no need to do so. But, of course, if we had some sort of cause or su****ion that meant that we needed to do more blood tests, let's say, five days, or, four days before a fight, then we certainly would have done it," said Tygart.

            During the failed negotiations for a potential March 13 bout against unbeaten Floyd Mayweather, seven-division champion, Manny Pacquiao claimed that he did not want to have blood randomly drawn for drug testing within 14 days of a fight.


            This would be the same as your son's principal saying that they are going to have random drug testing at the school and then it turns out the principal might do extra tests if they have a "su****ion" of your son. That's not random, that's up to the principal's own subjective opinion. It wouldn't be random and it wouldn't be legal.

            That's exactly the same thing Tygart said he did. He would have conducted another test closer to the fight if he had a "su****ion" about one of the fighters. It shouldn't be up to his subjective opinion. Random should mean random, not left to the discretion of Tygart or anyone else that would conduct the tests.
            i really do not have much beef as to the 18 days issue as long as both fighters did not know or are kept in the dark about the cut-off date.....

            my concern is that testing for both fighters must be done on the same date and same frequency...

            i think doing testing on one fighter much closer to the fight and not testing the other is not fair......

            same goes with doing more tests on one fighter than on the other fighter also is not fair.......

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            • pistol whip
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              #7
              Lets also not forget that Tygert runs a buissness! Considering the giant ammount of money his company charges to do the blood tests of course he's gonna exaggerate how his test is a million times more effective than any other test.

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              • Battle*Hardened
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                #8
                i don't want to get into this Pac vs Floyd or testing conversation, but I hate how everytime some idiot makes an irrelevant thread, more idiots of the same following come in and say, "wow *****s are scared now, they won't show up to talk", or "look *******s will duck the logic of this thread".

                All you ******s sound like ****ing children.

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                • DLT
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                  As a Mayweather fan, I do agree that they dropped the ball big time on this. I mean 18 days out? Atleast go to 10 to say you went under the 14 that Pac wanted or go to single digits. I know its not under Mayweather's or GBP's control but Tygart & USADA are idiots for that. To me it caused them to look slick & they lost some credibility.

                  If you say that saw no reason to test further then what will you say about the Pac fight? If he passes all his test 18 days out then how can you go further? The critics will ask what did you see to make you want to test Pac further?

                  Luckily for Floyd they have the Ortiz fight 1st and they should go down further but then it will still look pretty shady like Floyd, GBP, & Tygart are in it together and they wanted to inch it closer in each fight.

                  Like Floyd was worried about the testing effecting him in the ring also so they stopped the Mosley testing at 18 days, then they will stop the Ortiz testing at 7, and then the Pac fight will go all the way until a day before or so. It just doesnt look right.

                  With that being said, none of that still really matters in the end. Either you pass the test or you dont and everything they do has to be on record so they cant test Pac an abnormal amount of times compared to Floyd or everyone will rip them. They will be fair to Pac because they know "everyone" is watching this and it will be a stain on them forever if they screw it up

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                  • Sugar Sting Ray
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kenny MF Powers
                    Or that this is after it was said and done. Anyway you look at it to floyd and shane IT WAS RANDOM.
                    How do you know it was so-called "random" from their points of view? Floyd paid for the testing, afterall.

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