Myth Buster Series Pt 1: Miguel Cotto one of The GREAT fighters Floyd avoided?!?!?!

[LaMigra]

so why did it take this so called TOP P4P guy Cotto 36 fights & 9 years to BEAT a world champ with a title?

JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION...

Because unlike Floyd, Cotto was more into fighting REAL fights and not fights against journeymen like Gatti and Baldomir.


Since you like Questions... I got one for you:

Why did Floyd not man up and fight Margarito when Margarito stepped up to him like a stalker, and said... Let's fight. "It's about smart business decisions...Tony you and I will fight down the line ok" Ngga was shakin when he was talking to Margarito.


Another question: Was Cotto ever green? I always thought he was more like a tan shade?

Homeboy... Why are you carrying pom poms for the biggest bytch in the sport? You gotta know it reflects on your values and courage too right?

You condone cowardice? Do you relate to cowardice?

Another question: I know you like flashy belts...

Would it be more impressive to beat Shane Mosley for NO belt or beating Gatti for a nice shiny gold plated belt?

[LaMigra]

Yo Cash Cow... I found this video of your idol, Beater of Baldomir, doing his sucker-shuffle.

"It's about no balls...um it's about smart business decisions" Weaksauce.

[jrosales13]

Okay, so what made Mayweather a top fighter at '40? If that's your logic for Cotto not being a top fighter at '40. Wow, Cotto wasn't a top fighter at '40 when Mayweather was there, terrible.

In your post, all you're saying is that Mayweather ducked Cotto while trying to come off non-bias by stating neither wanted to fight each other... right.

Cotto wasn't a top fighter around his JWW days...He was still seen as somewhat of a prospect. Who's best win was what exactly at the time? He wasn't on any P4P list..Because, he wasn't seen as elite...Floyd had already proven himself as an elite fighter. Cotto hadn't. If Cotto was a top JWW at the time it was by default because Kostya had already damn near cleaned out the division.

Cotto didn't become truly elite until late 07'. Which made early 08 the best time to make the fight.

I don't understand how I'm making Floyd look like he ducked Cotto? If I am making that case then I'm also making the case that Cotto ducked Floyd during the same time period. Because, neither was eager to fight the other around this time.

You either blame neither or blame both.

And Pacquiao agreed to random drug testing. Cool sig.

Really he did? When? Because, all I got so far are lies and inconsistent coming from his side.

Didn't you give me a green K a couple days ago?

But, then again I'm a fan not a ****rider...Do you see where I'm going with this?

And, thank you, Crack did a hell of a job on the gif and Ether is a monster with the sigs.

[deejd]

Cotto wasn't a top fighter around his JWW days...He was still seen as somewhat of a prospect. Who's best win was what exactly at the time? He wasn't on any P4P list..Because, he wasn't seen as elite...Floyd had already proven himself as an elite fighter. Cotto hadn't. If Cotto was a top JWW at the time it was by default because Kostya had already damn near cleaned out the division.

Cotto didn't become truly elite until late 07'. Which made early 08 the best time to make the fight.

I don't understand how I'm making Floyd look like he ducked Cotto? If I am making that case then I'm also making the case that Cotto ducked Floyd during the same time period. Because, neither was eager to fight the other around this time.

You either blame neither or blame both.



Really he did? When? Because, all I got so far are lies and inconsistent coming from his side.

Didn't you give me a green K a couple days ago?

But, then again I'm a fan not a ****rider...Do you see where I'm going with this?

And, thank you, Crack did a hell of a job on the gif and Ether is a monster with the sigs.

Wow, Cotto wasn't a top fighter in his days at '40. You'd do anything to discredit Mayweather. Who's his best win? Who was Mayweather's best win at '40? That's what you're basing this on. We're not talking about '30 and '35, right? In 2005, Vivian Harris was thought to be one the top fighters in the '40 lb. division, so you're telling me that Cotto wasn't a top fighter at '40, then? Incredible. Hatton was the supposed boogeyman since he beat Tszyu.

Just like Cotto said he wasn't ready, so did Hatton, but at least Hatton made a push to fight Mayweather, Cotto didn't. Mayweather even said Cotto would get his first loss if they fought during his training for Gatti... but the only response they had was "we're not ready."

Yeah, I green k'd you because you actually made a sensible post in a different thread, but, then you go and post numerous gems like 'Cotto wasn't a top fighter in his days at '40' in attempt to detract from Mayweather... then it takes me back to your sig. Did I mention how awesome your sig was?

So yeah, Pacquiao did agree to random drug testing.

[jrosales13]

Wow, Cotto wasn't a top fighter in his days at '40. You'd do anything to discredit Mayweather.

How am I discrediting Mayweather by saying that Cotto wasn't a top fighter during his 140 days? Did Floyd fight Cotto or something? Did I miss something?

Who's his best win? Who was Mayweather's best win at '40? That's what you're basing this on. We're not talking about '30 and '35, right?

Cotto wasn't elite...Floyd already was. I'm sorry I didn't know beating Kelson Pinto puts you on the same level as Floyd Mayweather...My mistake.

But, Floyd beat Chop Chop beat than what both Cotto and and Judah did. Floyd was more dominated against Corley than both of them...Hell Cotto had to get the ref help to come up with that win...But you right he was elite during this time just like Floyd was

In 2005, Vivian Harris was thought to be one the top fighters in the '40 lb. division, so you're telling me that Cotto wasn't a top fighter at '40, then? Incredible. Hatton was the supposed boogeyman since he beat Tszyu.

Yes be default because Kostya had already damn near cleaned out an above average division.

Just like Cotto said he wasn't ready, so did Hatton, but at least Hatton made a push to fight Mayweather,

OK, and?

Cotto didn't.

That's what I said, thank you for agreeing with me.

Mayweather even said Cotto would get his first loss

Well damn.

if they fought during his training for Gatti... but the only response they had was "we're not ready."

OK cool. But, the best tme to make the fight was when both were elite. And, that was after Cotto beat Mosley...Not at 140...But, Floyd nor Cotto were really eager to fight each other...You like to give out quotes but you won't give the one after the Hatton which is all good. But, how can Floyd duck him when Floyd never turned down any offers? So no Floyd didn't duck him but neither did Cotto around this time. If you going to blame one you will have to blame the other.

Yeah, I green k'd you because you actually made a sensible post in a different thread,

Because, I'm a fan not a ****rider. Do you see where I'm going with this?

but, then you go and post numerous gems like 'Cotto wasn't a top fighter in his days at '40' in attempt to detract from Mayweather... then it takes me back to your sig. Did I mention how awesome your sig was?

And, thank you, Crack did a hell of a job on the gif and Ether is a monster with the sigs.

So yeah, Pacquiao did agree to random drug testing.

Umm...Yea...Saying it on video and putting it on a contract are two different things...And, with all the lies and contradictions coming from that camp. It's safe to say that they will never agree to such testing.

[Lords]

cash cow said best , who has Cotto beat?

He KO'd an Undefeated Ricardo Torres, UD over an Undefeated Paul Malinaggi, He KO'd a Carlos Quintana who around that time beat Paul Williams, UD win over Mosley, finishes off Judah, whiped Undefeated Foreman when nobody, not even miss pacman wanted to fight him. Haters hate on

[deejd]

How am I discrediting Mayweather by saying that Cotto wasn't a top fighter during his 140 days? Did Floyd fight Cotto or something? Did I miss something?



Cotto wasn't elite...Floyd already was. I'm sorry I didn't know beating Kelson Pinto puts you on the same level as Floyd Mayweather...My mistake.

But, Floyd beat Chop Chop beat than what both Cotto and and Judah did. Floyd was more dominated against Corley than both of them...Hell Cotto had to get the ref help to come up with that win...But you right he was elite during this time just like Floyd was




Yes be default because Kostya had already damn near cleaned out an above average division.



OK, and?



That's what I said, thank you for agreeing with me.



Well damn.



OK cool. But, the best tme to make the fight was when both were elite. And, that was after Cotto beat Mosley...Not at 140...But, Floyd nor Cotto were really eager to fight each other...You like to give out quotes but you won't give the one after the Hatton which is all good. But, how can Floyd duck him when Floyd never turned down any offers? So no Floyd didn't duck him but neither did Cotto around this time. If you going to blame one you will have to blame the other.



Because, I'm a fan not a ****rider. Do you see where I'm going with this?



And, thank you, Crack did a hell of a job on the gif and Ether is a monster with the sigs.



Umm...Yea...Saying it on video and putting it on a contract are two different things...And, with all the lies and contradictions coming from that camp. It's safe to say that they will never agree to such testing.

You discredited Mayweather by implying he retired as a way of "ducking" Cotto. That simple. When did I say Cotto was elite, though? I said he was a top fighter at '40. So now Hatton wasn't a top fighter at '40 in '05, wow, you're on a roll. What made Mayweather an elite fighter at '40, beating Bruseles? Do you see what I'm doing? You can name fighter A, B, and, C on Cotto's resume leading up to '05, but the fact of the matter is that both Mayweather and Cotto were being mentioned in the same breath to fight each other. I wonder why...?

Oh, okay. So the best time to make a fight is when both fighters are elite? I guess you should have stopped defending Pacquiao before you jumped on his bandwagon. I'm not the one stating that Mayweather ducked Cotto, but you're the one implying it while attempting to be neutral. Hatton would seek out Mayweather and he got the fight. Had Cotto showed some interest, maybe he'd have landed the payday as well.

Of course you're not a ****rider, cool sig.

Cotto wasn't a top fighter at '40 in '05, neither was Hatton... Good laugh, thanks.

[jrosales13]

You discredited Mayweather by implying he retired as a way of "ducking" Cotto. That simple. When did I say Cotto was elite, though? I said he was a top fighter at '40. So now Hatton wasn't a top fighter at '40 in '05, wow, you're on a roll. What made Mayweather an elite fighter at '40, beating Bruseles? Do you see what I'm doing? You can name fighter A, B, and, C on Cotto's resume leading up to '05, but the fact of the matter is that both Mayweather and Cotto were being mentioned in the same breath to fight each other. I wonder why...?

Oh, okay. So the best time to make a fight is when both fighters are elite? I guess you should have stopped defending Pacquiao before you jumped on his bandwagon. I'm not the one stating that Mayweather ducked Cotto, but you're the one implying it while attempting to be neutral. Hatton would seek out Mayweather and he got the fight. Had Cotto showed some interest, maybe he'd have landed the payday as well.

Of course you're not a ****rider, cool sig.

Cotto wasn't a top fighter at '40 in '05, neither was Hatton... Good laugh, thanks.

I'm going to make this kind of quick because now you boring me..

No I'm not implying that in anyway. I'm implying was that he wasn't eager to fight Cotto at this time. So therefor you can't say Cotto avoided Floyd at this time. Cotto wasn't eager to fight Floyd either as well. So therefor you can't say Floyd ducked Cotto either...I don't know how this is so hard to understand.

I was actually talking about Vivian Harris not Hatton...But, whatever.

I always think the best time to make the fight is when both fighters are seen as the best. The only time that was the case was at 147 after Cotto beat Mosley. Not at 140...If you think 140 was the best time to make the fight. Then so be it. That's your opinion cool. It's whatever. I beg to differ.

And, what is this defending Pac crap? I'm sorry I have shitted so much on Pac recently people call me a *****...Or pretending to be a Pac fan...Whatever.

But, then again I'm a fan not a ****rider. Do you see where I'm going with this?


Oh the sig? I thought you were referring to Pac...But, I guess you're talking about Tito. I stand corrected sir...I would admit I'm a Tito nuthugger. Yes this is true. He's my favorite all time. But, to be fair we all have our bias.

[deejd]

I'm going to make this kind of quick because now you boring me..

No I'm not implying that in anyway. I'm implying was that he wasn't eager to fight Cotto at this time. So therefor you can't say Cotto avoided Floyd at this time. Cotto wasn't eager to fight Floyd either as well. So therefor you can't say Floyd ducked Cotto either...I don't know how this is so hard to understand.

I was actually talking about Vivian Harris not Hatton...But, whatever.

I always think the best time to make the fight is when both fighters are seen as the best. The only time that was the case was at 147 after Cotto beat Mosley. Not at 140...If you think 140 was the best time to make the fight. Then so be it. That's your opinion cool. It's whatever. I beg to differ.

And, what is this defending Pac crap? I'm sorry I have shitted so much on Pac recently people call me a *****...Or pretending to be a Pac fan...Whatever.

But, then again I'm a fan not a ****rider. Do you see where I'm going with this?


Oh the sig? I thought you were referring to Pac...But, I guess you're talking about Tito. I stand corrected sir...I would admit I'm a Tito nuthugger. Yes this is true. He's my favorite all time. But, to be fair we all have our bias.

After Mayweather became a ppv fighter, when was he ever eager to fight anybody? He called out everyone on his rise, then we he started earning more, he rarely called anybody out and just fought who the media was riding. Cotto never expressed any desire to fight Mayweather, whereas when media put them in the same sentence, Mayweather would at least entertain the idea. Okay, so now, neither avoided each other and neither were eager to fight each other but for some strange reason, you deliver a Mayweather quote after he beat up Hatton during a time when Cotto was supposedly ready. Right.

Okay... What's your opinion of Mayweather fighting Ortiz right now?

Great, just last year, you were defending Pac to the gills. Couldn't care less if they call you a ***** or a pretend pacfan, just don't try to pass yourself off as all-knowing of boxing when you just jumped on during your sig's rise. Especially with comments like, 'Cotto wasn't a top fighter at '40 in '05.'

Oh, you thought I was talking about Tito...

[jrosales13]

After Mayweather became a ppv fighter, when was he ever eager to fight anybody? He called out everyone on his rise, then we he started earning more, he rarely called anybody out and just fought who the media was riding. Cotto never expressed any desire to fight Mayweather, whereas when media put them in the same sentence, Mayweather would at least entertain the idea. Okay, so now, neither avoided each other and neither were eager to fight each other but for some strange reason, you deliver a Mayweather quote after he beat up Hatton during a time when Cotto was supposedly ready. Right.

Okay... What's your opinion of Mayweather fighting Ortiz right now?

Great, just last year, you were defending Pac to the gills. Couldn't care less if they call you a ***** or a pretend pacfan, just don't try to pass yourself off as all-knowing of boxing when you just jumped on during your sig's rise. Especially with comments like, 'Cotto wasn't a top fighter at '40 in '05.'

Oh, you thought I was talking about Tito...

Calling out people and actually being serious to fight them are two different things.

I brought the quote to make my point that neither was looking to fight each other at the time...

Mayweather-Ortiz is the best fight that can be made at WW that doesn't involve Pac....What's the point of bring this up?

"Just jumped on during your sig's rise"? WTF does that even mean



Had to be since he would be only that can people I would be an extremist fan over. Pac? He's my favorite active fighter but I criticize him and give him credit when is due...I couldn't careless what anybody else thinks about that.

You can actually be a fan without being a ****rider. My post about Pac prove I'm no ****rider of his....Your posts about Floyd proves that you're sir...But, that's fine. We all have our "love" for a fighter. Mines is Tito, yours I guess it's Floyd...