Myth Buster Series Pt 1: Miguel Cotto one of The GREAT fighters Floyd avoided?!?!?!

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  • LaMigra
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    #121
    Maybe so that neither man ducked one another however, Floyd has a strong history of not wanting to fight the fights he should be fighting but the one's that represent least risk. All that "belt" BS to me, means nothing. I would rather see 2 guys that should be fighting one another over some BS fight for a "belt."


    Leave the belt sh it in the WWF where it belongs. We all know how the top guys are. No belt needed. Let the badass fight the badass while the journeymen polish their belts.

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    • Mojita
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      #122
      Lol TS.

      Lets be real, the only time we seen Cotto seriously back up was againest Margarito which hes never been the same since.

      I believe Cotto was more than ready for Mayweather. Cotto after the Mosley win was at the peak of his career. He had the confidence, the swag everything had he been fighting Floyd next.

      Cotto had and still has a great jab. Pretty good boxing skills, power, and had pressure. I believe a Mayweather and Cotto fight at their peak would been very competitive. The only time people saw Cotto break down in stamina or back away was againest a chinfirst fighter who he fought wrong againest. Clottey had peekaboo defense which Cotto who looked like **** and was under Joel Santiago looked terrible. Againest Pac he had no trainer and still looked like ****, and had no gameplan. Your judging Cotto post Margarito loss. But before that at his peak, he was very dangerous and i thought the first 6 rounds during the Margarito fight that hed beat anyone at 147 class that day. He was really something. IMO..

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      • QADASHBANYAH
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        #123
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        When the fight was the best time to be made...Neither guy showed they were eager to face the other...Neither guy tried to make the fight happen.

        Cotto is not great, not even a HOF'er in my book. Just a good fighter of his era.

        I will say this just because a guy couldn't beat the other guy...Does not mean he wasn't ducked...Not Floyd ducked him. Because, I don't think he did either...Like I said neither guy was eager to fighting each other when the best time to make that fight happened. So is no duck either way you look at it.

        But, if your argument is that Cotto was not on Floyd level or there was no way Cotto would win and therefor it was not a duck...Then that's just a lame ass argument.
        He asked a good question though Jrosales, who has cotto really beat. I mean in good fashion......

        hes a good fighter but he would have been spanked. Im not the guy that likes fantasy fights, he woulda etc. but I am sure you wouldnt bet the farm on that one....

        I FEEL ITS A MYTH..... BUT COTTO HAS ALWAYS HAD HEART....

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        • Paclan
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          #124
          Floyd would tear cotto up- he has absolutely no defense and floyd is too fast.

          His only chance is to land multiple low blows on floyd without getting disqualified.

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          • IMDAZED
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            #125
            Originally posted by Mojita
            Lol TS.

            Lets be real, the only time we seen Cotto seriously back up was againest Margarito which hes never been the same since.

            I believe Cotto was more than ready for Mayweather. Cotto after the Mosley win was at the peak of his career. He had the confidence, the swag everything had he been fighting Floyd next.

            Cotto had and still has a great jab. Pretty good boxing skills, power, and had pressure. I believe a Mayweather and Cotto fight at their peak would been very competitive. The only time people saw Cotto break down in stamina or back away was againest a chinfirst fighter who he fought wrong againest. Clottey had peekaboo defense which Cotto who looked like **** and was under Joel Santiago looked terrible. Againest Pac he had no trainer and still looked like ****, and had no gameplan. Your judging Cotto post Margarito loss. But before that at his peak, he was very dangerous and i thought the first 6 rounds during the Margarito fight that hed beat anyone at 147 class that day. He was really something. IMO..
            I thought so too. I really liked Cotto in his prime and I definitely had him in my top five pound for pound (maybe #3) following the Mosley bout. He looked that good to me. I picked Cotto to beat Margarito in a fight where he would survive Margarito's late round surge. He didn't. Instead, the beating he took in that fight took some shelf years off his fistic career. Margarito too, I think. Anyway, a fight between him and Floyd at that time would've been awesome. In retrospect, I think Floyd's defense and Cotto's lack thereof would've led the former to a clear UD win. But not without some hairy moments.

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            • Mojita
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              #126
              And why are people saying neither fighter ducked each other?

              Floyd is on record saying he wouldnt fight Cotto cause he lives in Puerto Rico.

              Floyd was on record back then saying Cotto is Top Rank so he wouldnt do business with Arum. He also claimed Cotto to not be a draw. Floyd ducked Cotto.

              During the Alfonso fight, Cotto was on ESPN saying he clearly wanted Mayweather soon. He said he couldnt force Floyd to fight him. The ball was in Floyds court to accept a fight.

              Everyone was wanting Mayweather Cotto back in the day. EVERYONE. Cotto beating Margarito would lead to a fight with DLH had he beaten lead a fight with Mayweather, that was everyones plan and hopes. Floyd just used excuse and vacation to not fight Cotto when fans and even media BOTHERED Floyd why he doesnt fight Cotto already?

              As much you guys are new to this sport since Pacquiao or forget the past . Stop being ******.

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                #127
                Originally posted by Mojita
                And why are people saying neither fighter ducked each other?

                Floyd is on record saying he wouldnt fight Cotto cause he lives in Puerto Rico.

                Floyd was on record back then saying Cotto is Top Rank so he wouldnt do business with Arum. He also claimed Cotto to not be a draw. Floyd ducked Cotto.

                During the Alfonso fight, Cotto was on ESPN saying he clearly wanted Mayweather soon. He said he couldnt force Floyd to fight him. The ball was in Floyds court to accept a fight.

                Everyone was wanting Mayweather Cotto back in the day. EVERYONE. Cotto beating Margarito would lead to a fight with DLH had he beaten lead a fight with Mayweather, that was everyones plan and hopes. Floyd just used excuse and vacation to not fight Cotto when fans and even media BOTHERED Floyd why he doesnt fight Cotto already?

                As much you guys are new to this sport since Pacquiao or forget the past . Stop being ******.
                I have no doubt that Cotto wanted Floyd and I don't think Floyd avoided him. Floyd says a lot of things but given his relationship with Arum, the one thing that stands out is how he consistently called for Cotto to be "his own man." I think he knew the fight couldn't be made with Arum in the way (especially since they were in court over owed money) and wanted Cotto to break free when he had the chance, like he did. The two seem to have a mutual respect for each other, as evidenced by their meeting in Puerto Rico some time back.

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                • Mojita
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  I have no doubt that Cotto wanted Floyd and I don't think Floyd avoided him. Floyd says a lot of things but given his relationship with Arum, the one thing that stands out is how he consistently called for Cotto to be "his own man." I think he knew the fight couldn't be made with Arum in the way (especially since they were in court over owed money) and wanted Cotto to break free when he had the chance, like he did. The two seem to have a mutual respect for each other, as evidenced by their meeting in Puerto Rico some time back.
                  If he really wanted Cotto, he would made it happen. He wasnt. Cotto would been the most competitive fight he had in years with a young strong WW. Hes willing todo business with Arum with Pac. Floyd is his own man, Arum wouldnt be stealing his money.. Cotto was a threat and he used every trick in the book to talk his way out. I think now if Cotto really tried later on, he could get a fight with May but its years too late. Itll be like a Trinidad Jones fight, should fought earlier, still names so it will sell. A payday for both fighters with of course Mayweather winning.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Mojita
                    If he really wanted Cotto, he would made it happen. He wasnt. Cotto would been the most competitive fight he had in years with a young strong WW. Hes willing todo business with Arum with Pac. Floyd is his own man, Arum wouldnt be stealing his money.. Cotto was a threat and he used every trick in the book to talk his way out. I think now if Cotto really tried later on, he could get a fight with May but its years too late. Itll be like a Trinidad Jones fight, should fought earlier, still names so it will sell. A payday for both fighters with of course Mayweather winning.
                    Just because Floyd isn't his own man doesn't mean Arum wouldn't be "stealing his money." What makes you think Arum wanted to split any pie with Floyd? Because he said so? The guy was in court with Floyd over the Gatti and Judah fights. The guy had a contentious falling out with Floyd. It wasn't a case of if Floyd really wanted Cotto. Cotto didn't call the shots, Arum did. So that's who Floyd would have to deal with. Given what was going on, it's not hard to see how that fight (or any other fight with Floyd against a Top Rank fighter) wasn't going to happen.

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                    • F l i c k e r
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