The Klitshckos and Today's Heavyweight Division

[!! Mr. Soprano]

People are b-i-t-c-h-i-n-g that the HW division sucks! Does it, or are the Klitschko's just so superior to make everyone else look like bums?

What would the division be like without the Klitschkos? I do see some exciting fights.

Think about this.. is it that much different than it was 10-15 years ago?

Arreola, Peter, Brewster, Chambers, Chagaev, Povetkin, same JC Gomez, now Haye, up and coming Boytsov & Helenius.

Are these guys any worse than Rahman, Francois Botha, Michael Grant, Golota, Shannon Briggs, Chris Byrd, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer, etc? Probably NOT!

The thing is that the Klitschkos are just too superior that make any of the opposition look like crap... They (mostly Wlad) have really cleaned up anyone on their way... much like Lewis did during his time... the only difference is that Wlad lacks that excitement that most American spectators complain about...

Is it his fault that they are so superior that there is no real danger and his fights are usually a one-sided beating?

Wlad would have cleaned up the division 10 years ago, much like he did today... only great matchup would be him against Lewis!

P.S. Those who say Tyson and Holyfield both knock him out, get real, Tyson is 5'10! and certainly was not the same Tyson he was in the 80's. Holyfield - aside from a washed up Tyson, did he even KO anyone in the 90's?

[The Hammer]

People are b-i-t-c-h-i-n-g that the HW division sucks! Does it, or are the Klitschko's just so superior to make everyone else look like bums?

What would the division be like without the Klitschkos? I do see some exciting fights.

Think about this.. is it that much different than it was 10-15 years ago?

Arreola, Peter, Brewster, Chambers, Chagaev, Povetkin, same JC Gomez, now Haye, up and coming Boytsov & Helenius.

Are these guys any worse than Rahman, Francois Botha, Michael Grant, Golota, Shannon Briggs, Chris Byrd, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer, etc? Probably NOT!

The thing is that the Klitschkos are just too superior that make any of the opposition look like crap... They (mostly Wlad) have really cleaned up anyone on their way... much like Lewis did during his time... the only difference is that Wlad lacks that excitement that most American spectators complain about...

Is it his fault that they are so superior that there is no real danger and his fights are usually a one-sided beating?

Wlad would have cleaned up the division 10 years ago, much like he did today... only great matchup would be him against Lewis!

P.S. Those who say Tyson and Holyfield both knock him out, get real, Tyson is 5'10! and certainly was not the same Tyson he was in the 80's. Holyfield - aside from a washed up Tyson, did he even KO anyone in the 90's?

Excellent post!

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[slimshandy69]

i agree great post.

When you truely analyse it, take away racal bias, nationlism etc, the k bros are simply the greatest heavyweights of all time.

Ali has the same build type and speed of haye, and without even trying wlad schooled haye.

Bout time these guys got the atg status...

[Welsh Jon]

People are b-i-t-c-h-i-n-g that the HW division sucks! Does it, or are the Klitschko's just so superior to make everyone else look like bums?

What would the division be like without the Klitschkos? I do see some exciting fights.

Think about this.. is it that much different than it was 10-15 years ago?

Arreola, Peter, Brewster, Chambers, Chagaev, Povetkin, same JC Gomez, now Haye, up and coming Boytsov & Helenius.

Are these guys any worse than Rahman, Francois Botha, Michael Grant, Golota, Shannon Briggs, Chris Byrd, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer, etc? Probably NOT!

The thing is that the Klitschkos are just too superior that make any of the opposition look like crap... They (mostly Wlad) have really cleaned up anyone on their way... much like Lewis did during his time... the only difference is that Wlad lacks that excitement that most American spectators complain about...

Is it his fault that they are so superior that there is no real danger and his fights are usually a one-sided beating?

Wlad would have cleaned up the division 10 years ago, much like he did today... only great matchup would be him against Lewis!

P.S. Those who say Tyson and Holyfield both knock him out, get real, Tyson is 5'10! and certainly was not the same Tyson he was in the 80's. Holyfield - aside from a washed up Tyson, did he even KO anyone in the 90's?

90's were more competitive, though not by a great deal. Remember the 90's were considered a poor batch too.

The past decade has had about the Klitscko brothers at the top, with guys like Haye, Adamek, Chageav, Peter and Povetkin etc just below.

The 90's had Lewis, Holyfield and Rid**** Bowe at the top, with old but still entertaining Tyson and Foreman, Chris Bryd, David Tua, Frank Bruno, Andrew Golota, Michael Moorer, Hasim Rahman etc just below

[!! Mr. Soprano]

90's were more competitive, though not by a great deal. Remember the 90's were considered a poor batch too.

The past decade has had about the Klitscko brothers at the top, with guys like Haye, Adamek, Chageav, Peter and Povetkin etc just below.

The 90's had Lewis, Holyfield and Rid**** Bowe at the top, with old but still entertaining Tyson and Foreman, Chris Bryd, David Tua, Frank Bruno, Andrew Golota, Michael Moorer, Hasim Rahman etc just below

And which of these decisively beat Wlad?
Lewis??? Maybe, maybe not... remember he got KTFO by Rahman.

Who are the HW's from the 80's that would Decisively beat Wlad?
Again, Tyson who cleaned up the division is 5'10. Yes he knocked out tall guys - who were BUMS and are nothing compared to either Wlad or Vitali.

[Sauce Boss]

No, the division is full of bums. Not taking anything away from the brothers though.

[bojangles1987]

People are b-i-t-c-h-i-n-g that the HW division sucks! Does it, or are the Klitschko's just so superior to make everyone else look like bums?

What would the division be like without the Klitschkos? I do see some exciting fights.

Think about this.. is it that much different than it was 10-15 years ago?

Arreola, Peter, Brewster, Chambers, Chagaev, Povetkin, same JC Gomez, now Haye, up and coming Boytsov & Helenius.

Are these guys any worse than Rahman, Francois Botha, Michael Grant, Golota, Shannon Briggs, Chris Byrd, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer, etc? Probably NOT!

The thing is that the Klitschkos are just too superior that make any of the opposition look like crap... They (mostly Wlad) have really cleaned up anyone on their way... much like Lewis did during his time... the only difference is that Wlad lacks that excitement that most American spectators complain about...

Is it his fault that they are so superior that there is no real danger and his fights are usually a one-sided beating?

Wlad would have cleaned up the division 10 years ago, much like he did today... only great matchup would be him against Lewis!

P.S. Those who say Tyson and Holyfield both knock him out, get real, Tyson is 5'10! and certainly was not the same Tyson he was in the 80's. Holyfield - aside from a washed up Tyson, did he even KO anyone in the 90's?

Yes, all those fighters are worse than Tommy Morrison, Razor Ruddock, Andrew Golota, Ray Mercer, Chris Byrd, Frank Bruno, and the other fringe contenders that Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, and Lewis beat. Hell 90% of the fighters the Klitschkos beat couldn't even beat John Ruiz at his best.

If you are actually watching Klitschko fights and thinking that what you are seeing compares to even the level of skill shown in fights in the late 80s or 90s, then you are a nuthugger.

[Welsh Jon]

And which of these decisively beat Wlad?
Lewis??? Maybe, maybe not... remember he got KTFO by Rahman.

Who are the HW's from the 80's that would Decisively beat Wlad?
Again, Tyson who cleaned up the division is 5'10. Yes he knocked out tall guys - who were BUMS and are nothing compared to either Wlad or Vitali.

When did I say any of them beat Wlad? I said the heavyweight division had a bit more depth in the 1990's than in the past decade.

I have no problem with people saying the Klitschko brothers would beat any heavyweight in history. What I do have a problem is people trying to claim that the current heavyweight division is strong. It's really not.

[Pirao]

Yes, all those fighters are worse than Tommy Morrison, Razor Ruddock, Andrew Golota, Ray Mercer, Chris Byrd, Frank Bruno, and the other fringe contenders that Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, and Lewis beat. Hell 90% of the fighters the Klitschkos beat couldn't even beat John Ruiz at his best.

If you are actually watching Klitschko fights and thinking that what you are seeing compares to even the level of skill shown in fights in the late 80s or 90s, then you are a nuthugger.

Lol... yeah while your opinion is fair and unbiased

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Yes, all those fighters are worse than Tommy Morrison, Razor Ruddock, Andrew Golota, Ray Mercer, Chris Byrd, Frank Bruno, and the other fringe contenders that Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, and Lewis beat. Hell 90% of the fighters the Klitschkos beat couldn't even beat John Ruiz at his best.

If you are actually watching Klitschko fights and thinking that what you are seeing compares to even the level of skill shown in fights in the late 80s or 90s, then you are a nuthugger.

I stopped reading about here... :clap: