With A Different Trainer, Haye Beats Wlad

[SirTomJones]

Haye needed to grow a pair.

The size of Wladimir frightened him.

[ChopperRead]

Like I said, Haye could've done a lot better against Wlad. Even you can figure out what Haye did wrong or could've done better. Another top trainer could tweak his mindset and have him perform differently if Booth can't do it.

One thing we do know is that Wlad couldn't knock Haye out as predicted. He lasted as long as he did due to his athleticism.

All I'm saying is if he learned anything from the fight, he'll fix his mistakes and perhaps perform better in the rematch if it ever happens.

Who says he can't perform better? That's what rematches are for, right?

1. This horse's ass didn't perform any better than the "fat slobs" he derided before the fight who lost vs Wlad.

2. A rematch would be appropriate if the match was close. it wasn't.

3. Odd how a guy who made such a stink about having no rematch clauses now wants a rematch.

4. Haye fought Wlad like he fought Valuev: this negative style is the way he fights bigger men, and a change in trainer won't help. He actually lost to Valuev as well.

5. If you want to fault Booth for something, try the way he made Haye so paranoid about the referee that Haye kept looking at the ref when Wlad hit him in the face, as if Wlad was breaking the rules.

6. Haye must beat a ranked contender in order to merit a rematch, but it seems he is too lazy for that and just wants another unearned big payday, not realizing that a rematch is of no interest to anyone outside of him and what's left of his fanbase. Wlad would be heavily criticized for giving Haye another payday off of a Haye loss.

7. As this match recedes into history, Haye is just going to be another Klitschko victim, noted for the volume of trash talk he produced before being easily beaten.

[Jim Jeffries]

I find it odd that i dont recall any similar threads after previous haye fights. Are you people saying haye somehow looked different that he has in past fight? Cuz i dont. That's how he fights. He's not gonna take the necessary risks to break down one of the klits.

Seriously, you're fools to think that when haye has NEVER fought the way you have to to beat the klits. Wlad nullifys haye's only advantages. Everyone acts like haye is some virtuoso type boxer with otherworldly power. He's not, he's fast but he throws no combos, headhunts, doesnt set guys up, and just rushes in.

Is it just me or does Haye seem like a HW version of Pascal, albeit with more power? Fast hands and feet, but fairly one dimensional and a bit predictable.

Haye needed to grow a pair.

The size of Wladimir frightened him.

I enjoyed Haye and Adamek more at CW.

[Walt Liquor]

Is it just me or does Haye seem like a HW version of Pascal, albeit with more power? Fast hands and feet, but fairly one dimensional and a bit predictable.

I enjoyed Haye and Adamek more at CW.

he is, he's extremely one dimensional. certain types of fight fans are in love with him for some reason. they see skills that are nonexistent, or mirages


haye v adamek at cw would have been great. I'd still like to see them at hw

[Jim Jeffries]

he is, he's extremely one dimensional. certain types of fight fans are in love with him for some reason. they see skills that are nonexistent, or mirages

Well he's athletic for a HW, decent power, fast hands, did a lot better job than I thought he'd do avoiding Wlad's jab. But besides Wlad, he's done a pretty good job of selecting his HW opponents and I'd definitely like to see him fight someone from this list before he gets a shot at Vitali, let alone a rematch with Wlad: Arreola, Helenius, Povetkin, Boytsov or even the lesser known Pulev, Mitchell, locally maybe the winner of Chisora/Fury or Price.

Either way less talk of retiring and more opponents under 35 would be nice. Maybe he'll prove himself yet.

haye v adamek at cw would have been great. I'd still like to see them at hw

Yeah those two would be fine at HW, because they're close to the same size. They only seem to concentrate more on defense (run) when they're fighting someone a fair bit bigger.

I'd favor Haye in that one, but it'd be a lot more exciting than any of his others at HW.

[ChopperRead]

Haye is trying to use his "retirement" date as a way to get a rematch without having to beat a top contender in the division first, but it ain't gonna work. Vitali said he might fight Haye if he beats a couple of names first. But that sounds like work, and Haye don't like work. He likes to talk.

[studentofthegam]

I find it odd that i dont recall any similar threads after previous haye fights. Are you people saying haye somehow looked different that he has in past fight? Cuz i dont. That's how he fights. He's not gonna take the necessary risks to break down one of the klits.

Seriously, you're fools to think that when haye has NEVER fought the way you have to to beat the klits. Wlad nullifys haye's only advantages. Everyone acts like haye is some virtuoso type boxer with otherworldly power. He's not, he's fast but he throws no combos, headhunts, doesnt set guys up, and just rushes in.

Its not like he needed a total overhaul. Its just a few things he could change and make it at least a very competitive affair if he gets another shot. I'm not a big David Haye fan but he does have some skills that could beat a lot of these HW's including a Klitschko. Yes he fought the same way as usual but for the biggest fight of his life it seems like he should have at the very least applied some kind of pressure.

In the exchanged where they are both throwing, it's not easy to see haye is faster at all. I should create some gifs of the fight for those unwilling to rewatch a few rounds. Wlad matched hayes speed punch for punch.. and as I said, his speed was consistent and he kept it in the later rounds. So if you argue he wasn't faster than haye in the rounds 1-6. You at least have t oadmit he was faster in tounds 7-12.

Haye is known for doing little cardio work. he has said many times he doesn't run too many miles, feels as though he doesn't need to. Thinks it's a 'myth' that all the road work is needed for a big tank. I think a bit more road work would help him a lot. Would pick his pace up as well.

I thought Haye was easily faster but Wlad definitely looked faster than usual is all. When Dave threw hard shots Wlad felt them. Haye lost out trying to win a jabbing contest in fear of getting hit and got hit anyway. It was a lose lose gameplan. And yeah he could use some road work too.

[VERILY]

I re-watched the fight and saw a few things Haye should have done but didn't.

I'm only going to say if Haye trains under Mayweather Sr. he beats Wlad in a rematch.

Just going by what I saw.

Except you don't expound on what you claim to have seen, but rather sit there pretending smugly to know something others don't over three crappy sentences which express only a very dubious opinion and nothing of weight to back it.

Which means you didn't see anything and your thread is just a worthless, steaming pile of HORSESHIT.



What on Earth has compelled you to all this wanton Haye ball-licking over the past few months? I used to think there was a somewhat solid poster in there, so it's a shame to have to level this at you - but it's got to be the 'black thing', hasn't it? It can literally be nothing else, since there's nothing rational behind any of your statements and proclamations on the Klitschko-Haye affair.



Take your peering-smugly-over-your-shades 'cool' emote, shove it up your fat arse and fuck off.

[Walt Liquor]

Except you don't expound on what you claim to have seen, but rather sit there pretending smugly to know something others don't over three crappy sentences which express only a very dubious opinion and nothing of weight to back it.

Which means you didn't see anything and your thread is just a worthless, steaming pile of HORSESHIT.



What on Earth has compelled you to all this wanton Haye ball-licking over the past few months? I used to think there was a somewhat solid poster in there, so it's a shame to have to level this at you - but it's got to be the 'black thing', hasn't it? It can literally be nothing else, since there's nothing rational behind any of your statements and proclamations on the Klitschko-Haye affair.



Take your peering-smugly-over-your-shades 'cool' emote, shove it up your fat arse and fuck off. :wave:

Holy shi t! MIB with a brutal KO to finish the thread.

I noticed the same thing- MindBat's complete decline as an astute poster and the vigor with which he has entered the NSB fray of flimsy posts and amateur namecalling and gossip- and called him out in a thread about a month ago, but I didn't bring the sledgehammer with me.

[Trigg]

David Haye could have Jesus ****ing Christ himself working his corner and the result would still be the same - Wlad getting the W