Comments Thread For: Mayweather Rips Pacquiao: Praised For My Leftovers

[IMDAZED]

Margarito being ranked #1 by the WBC means what exactly?

I'm sure exceptional win over Garcia will and truley warrented such a high ranking by the WBC. After all, they aren't known for shocking rankings, at all.

When they start using sanctioning body rankings they are either:

a. Not a person who follows boxing closely.

b. Desperately grasping at straws.

[tangalog2200]

"was a defeated fighter"..............

hmmm...some simple questions.......

was pbf the one who took away the 0's of all his previous opponents???

or another way.....how many pbf opponents were unbeaten b4 they fought pbf???

just asking.....

[Blubba]

When they start using sanctioning body rankings they are either:

a. Not a person who follows boxing closely.

b. Desperately grasping at straws.

oh yeh and there was u going on about how floyd is now taking on a young n best welter champion. hahaha

who's grasping at straws daisy

[ThePrince]

Only a f*g goes by sanctioning body rankings in this day and age. You're so hilarious. Margarito ranked #1 by the WBC . Do you watch boxing? Again, when was the last time Manny fought the best available welter?

Ok, so tell me how you determine who the best fighter available is.

floyd's win over shane is better than pac's only because of pre-fight stats.

there's really not much difference with the shane who showed up in the ring against floyd than the shane who fought pac. the same shane who fought tentatively and who gassed out after just a couple of rounds.

it's very comical when you consider floyd's win over mosley a great one. there's actually one poster here in this thread who said that...very ******.

Exactly, these clowns like to act like Shane was this big threat at age 37 coming off a 16 month layoff and was the best welter out there besides Floyd, but at age 38 he was cherry picked by Manny. They fought the same Mosley and Manny faired better. Clottey was more of a challenge in 2010 than Mosley was.

[beatnutts]

I am a Floyd and i have no problem saying Mayweather has taking some damn easy fights. Lots of them. But don't act like Manny fighting Mosley and Margarito was something great. Mosley got his butt kicked by Mayweather then looked like complete crap against Mora. Margarito got his ass knocked out by Mosley, suspended for a year, came back and fought for the 1st time at 154 and won against someone no one knows.

You wanna say Floyd hasn't fought tough competition in years? I'll agree but who the **** will brag about beating Mosley at this stage and a suspended for one year after getting knocked out Margarito.

[IMDAZED]

Ok, so tell me how you determine who the best fighter available is.

Oh you mean you don't know? You mean you go by sanctioning bodies?

Listen, if you're a boxing fan then you know that Margarito wasn't anywhere near the best available at 147 or 154 at that time. Maybe 150? Not even that. Maybe if it was 2008 when that happened? I don't know. I'm trying to help you but if going by sanctioning bodies is what you do then I'm afraid you're hopeless. Try using your own brain instead of having Jose Sulaiman think for you.

[pistol whip]

Ooook, I see you're just going to openly deny it. That's cool.

And what kind of statistical evidence do you want me to provide? A NSB poll? I'll pass.

I mean, there was so blatently demand for Mayweather to fight Mosley.

How is it my view or opinion? There was demand for the fight.



Mayweather never fought Cotto. Ok.. What's your point?

Cotto beat Mosley. That's great, great win for Cotto. Again, I missed your point.



What exactly I am spinning?

You're acting like I have said Mayweather has consistently fought the best available or something..

Floyd has done his fair share of cherry picking. Absolutely.



That's for letting me know that. Not sure why you have but ok.

I really don't care what ESPN say. I mean, they clearly have no idea what they are talking about.

Yes there was demand for a Mosely fight but that doesn't mean that there wasn't also demand for a cotto fight. Lets be honest here if Pac fought Mosely and didn't fight Cotto till later down the road you would be making the same argument only in reverse. Was a Shane vs pac match up mentioned in the press? Yes of course but exaggerating your point of view to make it seem like people were rioting in the streets when Pac fought Cotto instead of Mosely is just plain ******. The truth is fans were happy with either fight being made. Now you can tell yourself that Shane was the better option all you want but im sorry i think you are wrong.

And the point im trying to make about Cotto is that you are using the triangle theory to justify your point of view. Mosely beat Margarito who beat Cotto so that makes Mosely the best option right? Well Cotto beat mosely who beat margarito so how the *** does that factor into everything?

The truth is the Cotto fight was just plain easier to make. Nobody was afraid of Shane it was simply easier for the promoter to make the fight with Cotto. I mean the Top rank vs Golden Boy rivalry is pretty well documented and it shocks me that so called boxing fans like yourself are so quick to crap on pac and forget that the "promoters" involved explain why Cotto got the fight and not Mosely. How convinient that u forget that little fact and criticize Pac based on some eutopian boxing world where there are no promoters involved. Get real my friend!

[pistol whip]

Oh you mean you don't know? You mean you go by sanctioning bodies?

Listen, if you're a boxing fan then you know that Margarito wasn't anywhere near the best available at 147 or 154 at that time. Maybe 150? Not even that. Maybe if it was 2008 when that happened? I don't know. I'm trying to help you but if going by sanctioning bodies is what you do then I'm afraid you're hopeless. Try using your own brain instead of having Jose Sulaiman think for you.

Of course u would forget the whole 15+ pound weight advantage part. I mean floyd who is a full on natural welterweight fights middleweights all the time right? Because thats exactly what floyd would have to do to equal the size disadvantages that Pac has had in his last 5 fights in a row.

[Blubba]

Oh you mean you don't know? You mean you go by sanctioning bodies?

Listen, if you're a boxing fan then you know that Margarito wasn't anywhere near the best available at 147 or 154 at that time. Maybe 150? Not even that. Maybe if it was 2008 when that happened? I don't know. I'm trying to help you but if going by sanctioning bodies is what you do then I'm afraid you're hopeless. Try using your own brain instead of having Jose Sulaiman think for you.

this is typical daisy diverting the conversation, oh now lets do the sanctioning bodies gtfo girlfriend.

yeh cus hatton was best at 147 for floyd haha, ortiz best at 147 his only one fight there ever. marquez was the best at 146 lol. mosley was the best after 16 months out.

[beatnutts]

If you are comparing how these guys won against the same opponent then you don't know **** about boxing. One guys is a pure boxing and a defensive genius while the other guy is a offensive monster. Of course the outcome will be different and if you don't know that then you're a complete idiot. Julio Cesar Chavez looked better than Pernell against some of the same opponents but that didn't mean **** when they fought. I'm not saying Mayweather would beat Manny like Pernell beat the hell out of Chavez but i am saying you can't compare results like that. Its really ****ing ******ed.