Kostya Tsyzu..all time great???

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    Gran Campeon
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    #11
    at 140. But overall i dont think he stacks up too high.

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    • abdiel2k3
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      #12
      Originally posted by Liber Librae
      just read a post about tsyzu vs delahoya where someone said
      both were all time greats..

      seeing as tsyzus only had just over 30 fights can he
      really be called that..your views please :lol:

      and hes been koed
      whos dat in the avtar?

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      • Neuraxis
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        #13
        Originally posted by Liber Librae
        just read a post about tsyzu vs delahoya where someone said
        both were all time greats..

        seeing as tsyzus only had just over 30 fights can he
        really be called that..your views please :lol:

        and hes been koed
        He is obviously an all time great.

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        • Sir_Jose
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          #14
          Originally posted by Liber Librae
          just read a post about tsyzu vs delahoya where someone said
          both were all time greats..

          seeing as tsyzus only had just over 30 fights can he
          really be called that..your views please :lol:

          and hes been koed

          Yes Tszyu is an all time great. He fought in the deepest era in the history of the weight division and dominated. He's aloe one of the greatest amature fighters ever.

          Tszyu beat:
          Jake Rodriguez
          Rafael Ruelas
          Diosbelys Hurtado
          Miguel Ángel González
          Ahmed Santos
          Oktay Urkal
          Ben Tackie
          James Leija
          Sharmba Mitchell 2x

          all quality fighters and all legit top ten guys at 140 when those fights took place.

          and he's not done yet.

          I put Tszyu #3 all time at 140 behind Pryor and Chavez

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          • dino
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            #15
            tszyu has a chance against anybody who has ever fought at 140...i think leonard would outpoint him though

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            • grayfist
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              #16
              Yes, he's on my short list at 140.

              And my list is very, very short.

              As for the solitary KO, if having been KOd eliminates a nominee from being enshrined in Canastota, the Hall of Fame would have been vacant except for one resident: Rocky Marciano. As far as I can recall, among the great ones, it's only Rocky who was never stopped. He didn't even lose.

              Larry Holmes came close: he didn't lose in 49 straight fights and was on the way to besting Marciano's record when Michael Spinks beat him on decision. Holmes retired with the record of having lost only once in 50 fights and never having ever been stopped.

              Then, he came back... faced Mike Tyson...
              Last edited by grayfist; 12-21-2004, 11:05 PM.

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              • neostars
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                #17
                What make Tsyzu so great, is his heart and determination.
                After that Horror loss to Phillips, Zoo should of been out of the boxing elite. Most boxer dont recover from a bad loss.

                But Tsyzu showed heart to fight his way back and KTFO out of two fighter in spectacular fashion. Going into the fight, he was an under dog and most Americans wrote him off.

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                • techn9ne
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Liber Librae
                  just read a post about tsyzu vs delahoya where someone said
                  both were all time greats..

                  seeing as tsyzus only had just over 30 fights can he
                  really be called that..your views please :lol:

                  and hes been koed
                  what is this??? if youve been KOd your no longer an all time great??? dumbest post ive read in a while... lets take foreman, frazier, ali, tyson, holyfield, lewis, and joe lewis off the heavyweight list then (i guess that leaves only vitalu klitschko)

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                  • KJ
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by techn9ne
                    what is this??? if youve been KOd your no longer an all time great??? dumbest post ive read in a while... lets take foreman, frazier, ali, tyson, holyfield, lewis, and joe lewis off the heavyweight list then (i guess that leaves only vitalu klitschko)

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                    • KJ
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                      #20
                      I think the final yes or no on "Kostya Tsyzu..all time great???", depends on how he ends his carreer.

                      Every loss now will damage his legacy.

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