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  • #21
    Originally posted by Frank the Tank
    I think as a fighter he is a great at 140 but he probably won't get as much recognition as he should because he's had no real huge fights in comparison to someone like DLH.
    You can't say that, Tszyu won 13 or 14 championship fights. DLH just fights big name fighters and loses horrible and seldomly wins. I think if you are talking about champions, Tszyu is a great champion, if you are talking about great money makers, that's DLH, who lost 3/4 last fights. And got badly beaten up by The Sturm from europe.

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    • #22
      Oscar is a great fighter and would go down in the hall of fame.I give him credit for stepping up to the challenge and fighting big names. But how many really big names did he beat.
      He lost to Mosley twice, tito, Hopkins and should of lost to sturm.
      He would lose to all of them again, if he eva got a rematch.

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      • #23
        Tszyu has been the top dog in his weight class for around 5 yrs, 10 yrs if you exclude the Vince Phillips loss. That is around 5-10% of boxing history right there, so of course he is an all-time great. So if Oscar for transcending the sport and keeping it alive. Btw, all-time greats do get knocked out. It is how they deal with it that makes them greats.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by RussianArm
          You can't say that, Tszyu won 13 or 14 championship fights. DLH just fights big name fighters and loses horrible and seldomly wins. I think if you are talking about champions, Tszyu is a great champion, if you are talking about great money makers, that's DLH, who lost 3/4 last fights. And got badly beaten up by The Sturm from europe.
          I can say that and I stand by my statement. KT has fought the best guys in his division but no real superstars as such, except for a couple who were past their primes. DLH has had several mega-fights at various weights and has only lost badly to Hopkins. He's also won a fair few of them.

          There was nothing derogatory in my post towards KT, just a statement of fact that he will never be as highly regarded as he should be. It's not due to any failings on his part, just circumstance that there wasn't better opposition to put infront of him. He should have moved up through the weights to get some mega-fights if he wanted to be classed as an all time great fighter and not just a great at 140. DLH could have been even more impressive than KT had he just stayed at 147 and not moved up.
          Last edited by Cletus Funk; 12-23-2004, 09:49 AM.

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          • #25
            Tszyu and DLH dont crack the top 100 P4P all time.

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            • #26
              If Kostya clocks DLH at 147, his all time status would be absolutely beyond question..

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              • #27
                Originally posted by SweetScience
                Tszyu and DLH dont crack the top 100 P4P all time.
                I would love to see your 100!

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by SweetScience
                  Tszyu and DLH dont crack the top 100 P4P all time.

                  Could you please provide a list of your top 100 P4P. Thank you.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by SweetScience
                    Tszyu and DLH dont crack the top 100 P4P all time.

                    Yes lets please see your list...otherwise, I'd have to believe that you are just repeating something you've heard somewhere else or you're just insane.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by oldgringo
                      Yes lets please see your list...otherwise, I'd have to believe that you are just repeating something you've heard somewhere else or you're just insane.
                      Lol you can't compare boxers at different weights, KT def. up there with top 5 140 pders.

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