Kostya Tsyzu..all time great???

[Kimmy]

Just because Roy Jones has recently sucumbed to old age doesn`t mean he is less of a fighter. He achieved quite a bit in his career and dominated teh lightheavy weight division for almost 7 yrs. This guy is an all time great, he should be ranked higher than Tsyzu.

[scramwarrior]

LOL @ idoit! How am I talking trash? Lucky me I have this list sitting on my computer.LOL

All of these fighters are better then Tszyu and DLH P4P. Flame away!!!

1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Roberto Duran
4 Muhammad Ali
5 Ezzard Charles
6 Joe Louis
7 Eder Jofre
8 Carlos Monzon
9 Harry Greb
10 Ray Leonard
11 Willie Pep
12 Sam Langford
13 Archie Moore
14 Marvin Hagler
15 Benny Leonard
16 Alexis Arguello
17 Gene Tunney
18 Pernell Whitaker
19 Julio Cesar Chavez
20 Salvador Sanchez
21 Sandy Saddler
22 Emile Griffith
23 Roy Jones Jr
24 Jose Napoles
25 Jimmy Wilde
26 Jack Johnson
27 Thomas Hearns
28 Michael Spinks
29 Bob Foster
30 Fighting Harada
31 Mickey Walker
32 Aaron Pryor
33 Rocky Marciano
34 Ike Williams
35 Tony Canzoneri
36 Kid Gavilan
37 Larry Holmes
38 Bob Fitzsimmons
39 Wilfredo Gomez
40 Carlos Zarate
41 Evander Holyfield
42 Miguel Canto
43 Jack Dempsey
44 Billy Conn
45 Luis Rodriguez
46 Wilfred Benitez
47 Ruben Olivares
48 Marcel Cerdan
49 Charley Burley
50 George Foreman
51 Stanley Ketchel
52 Gene Fullmer
53 Joe Frazier
54 Pascual Perez
55 Ricardo Lopez
56 Tiger Flowers
57 Joe Gans
58 Kid Choclate
59 Azumah Nelson
60 Jimmy McClarnin
61 Antonio Cervantes
62 Sonny Liston
63 Terry McGovern
64 Eusebio Pedroza
65 Mike McCallum
66 **** Tiger
67 Tony Zale
68 Beau Jack
69 Joe Walcott
70 Carlos Ortiz
71 George Dixon
72 Jung-Koo Chang
73 Jeff Fenech
74 Tommy Loughran
75 Manuel Ortiz
76 Jake LaMotta
77 Nino Benvenuti
78 Vicente Salvidar
79 Panama Al Brown
80 Floyd Patterson
81 Abe Attell
82 Jeff Chandler
83 Philidelphia Jack O'Brien
84 Georges Carpentier
85 Khaosai Galaxy
86 Pancho Villa
87 Estaban DeJesus
88 Harold Johnson
89 Maxie Rosembloom
90 Lennox Lewis
91 Les Darcy
92 Frankie Genaro
93 Mike Tyson
94 Nicolino Locche
95 Benny Lynch
96 Jack Britton
97 Mark Johnson
98 Ken Buchanan
99 Jersey Joe Walcott
100 Felix Trinidad

OWNED!!!!1111

Yeah lol idiot. We were referring to all-time greats at his division, but you missed that one apparently. Also, if this is your all-time great fighters list in general, it is a pretty ****ty one. Let me illustrate:

Ali at 4th? Behind Henry Armstrong? ummm... That's a first.
Marciano at 33rd?
Patterson at 80th?

Need I go on? I'll say it in smaller and more accurate words...owned.

[Deejay]

I have no qualms about henry armstrong being at number 2 at all...he was awesome. Ali could've been the best p4p ever if he wasn't sidelined by that political bull**** for 3 years. And as much as I like Tszyu, there is no way in hell that he should be higher than RJJ. RJJ is a once in a lifetime kinda fighter and deserves to be called an all-time great!

[scramwarrior]

I have no qualms about henry armstrong being at number 2 at all...he was awesome. Ali could've been the best p4p ever if he wasn't sidelined by that political bull**** for 3 years. And as much as I like Tszyu, there is no way in hell that he should be higher than RJJ. RJJ is a once in a lifetime kinda fighter and deserves to be called an all-time great!

I know who Armstrong is, but he was never the caliber of Ali. Ali was well-known because of his personality as well as his accomplishments. The political stuff aside, Ali would have demolished every fighter on that list at heavyweight IMO(He did beat some of the best ever), so I feel that he is P4P the best ever.

[oldgringo]

I know who Armstrong is, but he was never the caliber of Ali. Ali was well-known because of his personality as well as his accomplishments. The political stuff aside, Ali would have demolished every fighter on that list at heavyweight IMO(He did beat some of the best ever), so I feel that he is P4P the best ever.

I would put Armstrong ahead of Ali based on the fact that he held world titles at multiple weights including 3 at the same time if I'm not mistaken. And Ali wouldn't "demolish" every other fighter...he may beat them, but if a young, more experienced Foreman had another crack at him he could beat him, and Larry Holmes certainly had the jab and all around skills to give Ali boatloads of trouble and possibly beat him.

[oldgringo]

And theres no way that Tszyu should be close to Roy on an all-time list. If Kostya were to say go out and win the super middleweight title then yeah maybe. Roy is the best fighter of the last ten years...like Kimmy said, his last few fights shouldn't take away from his greatness.

[scramwarrior]

I would put Armstrong ahead of Ali based on the fact that he held world titles at multiple weights including 3 at the same time if I'm not mistaken. And Ali wouldn't "demolish" every other fighter...he may beat them, but if a young, more experienced Foreman had another crack at him he could beat him, and Larry Holmes certainly had the jab and all around skills to give Ali boatloads of trouble and possibly beat him.

I see what your saying, but what is your point in relevance to Ali? I don't care if you only hold one belt, beating fighters like Sonny Liston, Jerry Quarry, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, etc. is enough to establish your #1 ranking. Sorry about the "demolish" sarcasm. I didn't think someone would actually take that seriously. LOL.

[oldgringo]

I see what your saying, but what is your point in relevance to Ali? I don't care if you only hold one belt, beating fighters like Sonny Liston, Jerry Quarry, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, etc. is enough to establish your #1 ranking. Sorry about the "demolish" sarcasm. I didn't think someone would actually take that seriously. LOL.

My point in establishing Armstrong ahead of Ali was pretty clear. Ali might have had the toughest resume of any fighter ever, but Armstrong fought the top guys of his day IN MULTIPLE WEIGHT CLASSES, he fought much more than Ali, and held world titles at different weights. It's harder to move out of your best weight and beat top guys but Armstrong did this. He was also an animal in the ring. I didn't see any sarcasm in your demolish statement it looked pretty serious to me but if it was sarcastic than I'm sorry for ranting when I shouldn't have.

[JaNnO]

just read a post about tsyzu vs delahoya where someone said
both were all time greats..

seeing as tsyzus only had just over 30 fights can he
really be called that..your views please :lol:

and hes been koed

too early to tell...he hasn't been tested that far...and having a ko-punch isn't everything in boxing...not to mention future breeds of fine boxers...

all-time australian boxer...might as well be.

[SweetScience]

Yeah lol idiot. We were referring to all-time greats at his division, but you missed that one apparently. Also, if this is your all-time great fighters list in general, it is a pretty ****ty one. Let me illustrate:

Ali at 4th? Behind Henry Armstrong? ummm... That's a first.
Marciano at 33rd?
Patterson at 80th?

Need I go on? I'll say it in smaller and more accurate words...owned.

WOW! You sure have something to say when you dont have a damn list. Lets see you're list? Or YOU are truly the idiot.LOL

You cant argue that top 3, in fact some can argue Armstrong can be number 1.

As far as Tszyu goes though, he ranks in the top 5 in his weight division.