How do you rank Wlad pound-for-pound?

[KingOfBox]

Agreed.

Even a guy like Sergio Martinez, obviously Sergio is a great fighter and his KO of Paul Williams was amazing.

But his KO over Williams is not as good as Wlad's run of 7 years as dominant champion.

Wladimir is the most dominant fighter in boxing and is on a 7 year championship run. Thats amazing and he outdoes guys like Martinez, Donaire, Mayweather, Ortiz, Marquez, Hopkins in that respect.

Klitschko is a very clear top3 P4P fighter and probably #1 or #2.

Its great to see that a lot of people think Klitschko is #1 P4P.

Again with this 7 years nonsense...

Chris John has been champ for 8 years and is undefeated... where is he on the list??? talentless division just like Wlad and Vitali...

I actually like Vitali... he went to battle against Lennox... but Wlad is and fights like a b*tch.

You even implying that Wlad is better than Sergio just tells me you are ridiculous.. damn right hilarious...

Thanks bud... great laugh

[kiaba360]

I think that Wlad is a victim of circumstance. He does have a really good resume for this era of Heavyweights, and he would obviously be the number one heavyweight at the moment and easily in the top 10 P4P rankings. The Ring has him at #5. But, since this era of heavyweights is lacking, then he doesn't get the full credit that he deserves.

[Who are you?]

You even implying that Wlad is better than Sergio just tells me you are ridiculous.. damn right hilarious...

David Haye is a much better a more accomplished fighter than Paul Williams. Understand that David Haye is a former undisputed world champion. Wladimir dominated Haye.

Martinez lost the first fight to Williams.

So, what Im saying is that in terms of achievement Wlad's W 12 over Haye is much more substantial than Martinez losing and then beating Williams.

Not to mention, Wlad is also on a 7 year run. Martinez is on no such run.

So Wladimir has achieved wayyyyyyyyyy more than Martinez, Ortiz, Marquez, Donaire etc. Wlad has just achieved so much more than these guys.

Wlad also has better skillsets (jab, power punching, footwork).

As for Chris John. Well Chris John has a number of controversial decisions, and also, Chris John has not beaten the same level of quality of opposition of Wlad.

Chris John has controversial wins, and the guys he beats are absolute nobodies and not established top10 guys.

Wlad Klitschko is easily the most dominant champion in boxing, and in terms of achievement, is probably the best current active boxer.

Wlad has achieved so much and is definitely P4P #1 or #2 in the sport and an alltime great.

[Who are you?]

Paul Williams is not a good, accomplished fighter like David Haye.

Certainly never been an undisputed world champion like David Haye was at CW.

And lets not forget Sergio LOST the first fight to Williams.

Klitschko hasnt lost a fight in 7 years.

So Klitschko's win over Haye is worth a lot more than Sergio's over Williams. Not to mention, Klitschko's entire career resume is much more substantial than Sergio's.

Klitschko is the most dominant fighter in boxing and his championship run mandates his top2 P4P placement.

Klitschko (unlike Chris John) routinely outclasses credible top10 guys.

[Pinoy4ever]

On my p4p list he is on the top 15 cause really who is there to challenge him or his brother in the Heavyweight Division.
That division sucks big time and going down.
Come on with a new Mike Tyson!!!

[puga]

infront of the piss drinker for sure.....

[Marcov]

Yet no option for top 15 or 20!

[daggum]

klitschko is the exact opposite of a p4p fighter in my mind. he's great but he's not a great p4p fighter. he wins most of his fights because he knows how to use his natural size advantage to its fullest. it's really impossible to judge p4p for heavyweights. just because you are dominant doesn't mean you are p4p. if wlad was the same size as all the other good fighters in boxing would he be one of the best? i say no but maybe you say yes.


most of the the guys he fought have been woefully out of shape which compromises their abilities and leaves them as sitting ducks. can you imagine pac or floyd fighting gaining 25 pounds to challenge chad dawson? they wouldn't be the same fighters because they are carrying way too much weight. they wouldn't have the same speed, agility or stamina. basically they would get their asses kicked and the guys the klitschkos are fighting aren't on the pac/floyd level to begin with. they are just solid fighters who are very lazy.


the other skilled guys like haye and adamek are just way too small to compete. if floyd weighed 147 on fight night against a guy like ward or dawson he wouldn't have much chance either. that doesn't mean ward or dawson are better than him p4p. same thing applies to the heavyweight division.

[chiguy91]

not so sure on top 5, but i'd put him in the top 10

[KingOfBox]

David Haye is a much better a more accomplished fighter than Paul Williams. Understand that David Haye is a former undisputed world champion. Wladimir dominated Haye.

Martinez lost the first fight to Williams.

So, what Im saying is that in terms of achievement Wlad's W 12 over Haye is much more substantial than Martinez losing and then beating Williams.

Not to mention, Wlad is also on a 7 year run. Martinez is on no such run.

So Wladimir has achieved wayyyyyyyyyy more than Martinez, Ortiz, Marquez, Donaire etc. Wlad has just achieved so much more than these guys.

Wlad also has better skillsets (jab, power punching, footwork).

As for Chris John. Well Chris John has a number of controversial decisions, and also, Chris John has not beaten the same level of quality of opposition of Wlad.

Chris John has controversial wins, and the guys he beats are absolute nobodies and not established top10 guys.

Wlad Klitschko is easily the most dominant champion in boxing, and in terms of achievement, is probably the best current active boxer.
Wlad has achieved so much and is definitely P4P #1 or #2 in the sport and an alltime great.

Your moronic fanboy approach makes no sense...

You are trying (without success) to come up with reason why Wladimir is better than any of the top p4p by saying he is #1 or 2?!?! You are ******ed..

Top 10??? What top ten guy has EITHER of the Klits beaten?!?!?

NOBODY!!

The 2 of them combined.... The best feat they have accomplished as brothers is Vitali's loss to Lennox Lewis... That was believe it or not, the most prolific fight in both of the brothers' careers, and Vitali lost. Everything else was hogwash... Everybody knows it and thats why nobody cares about the heavyweight division.

Sergio fought prime and dangerous competition like Kelly Pavlik who is waay bigger than he is.. and sliced and diced him all night... He demolished Paul in their 2nd fight. And Paul was the most feared man in boxing at the time. Then he up and murdered his mandatory Zdinziruk. All 3 men were much bigger than he was. He didn't just win... He beat the **** out of them in fashion...

Meanwhile your pal Wladimir was across the pond pawing jabs at a much smaller man all night... WHEN IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAVE WE EVER KNOWN A HEAVYWEIGHT TO PAW HIS JAB AT OPPONENTS???!!! Please man... If he was soo good he would have knocked Haye the **** out..

...Also by saying Klitboy is #1 or 2 you are saying that YOU think he is better than Floyd or Pac. All this 7 years nonsense... All you're doing is supporting my point as to how long its been since the heavyweight division has been worth mentioning and let alone watching(and its been even longer than that).
If Klitboys were 6'2 or 6'3 they would have 10 more losses on each of their records. They suck... And so do the rest of the slobs above 175 lbs. Also neither of them have ever beaten a Top 15 p4p let alone a top 10