How do you rank Wlad pound-for-pound?

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Guys right now who could outbox him if they were the same size:

Pacquiao, Mayweather....any more ideas?

[Eastbay Giant]

Well Ring had him at #5 and Boxrec had him at #2 BEFORE this fight.... so....

I would put him aheaf of Pac, in all honesty, Pac has not been beating undefeated young hungry guys, Wlad has, consistently for the past 7 years so yeah, #1 in the world

No P4P...

I have him ahead in ATG rankings. Wlad's style doesn't translate to lower weight classes, like Pacquiaos does to higher weight classes.

[Who are you?]

It seems many people view Wlad as the best fighter in boxing P4P.

Thats great and well-deserved after his 7 year run as champion. Wlad is easily the most dominant champ in boxing and its well deserved that he is P4P #1.

[KingOfBox]

Some of you casual fans have obviously mistaken what P4P means...

It is a fighter's opinionated rank regardless of weightclass and not solely based on merits or accomplishments. Let me further explain... The fact that Wladimir has been a champion for 7 years and all of that extra fluff you threw on here doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have nearly the talent or skill of other people on P4P lists.
Mayweather, Pacquiao, Martinez, Donaire, Hopkins, Ward, Marquez, Khan, Gamboa, Bute, Cotto, Kessler...

Interestingly enough... Chris John has been champion at feather for 8 years and is undefeated at 45-0... We don't find HIM on ANY P4P lists... You know why?? Because he is a B- fighter fighting in a talent drained division (excluding Gamboa). Wladimir doesn't outskill anyone...he outsizes them.

As far as talent goes...
Chris John and Wladimir Klitschko are no different my friends...

[Spray_resistant]

Some of you casual fans have obviously mistaken what P4P means...

It is a fighter's opinionated rank regardless of weightclass and not solely based on merits or accomplishments. Let me further explain... The fact that Wladimir has been a champion for 7 years and all of that extra fluff you threw on here doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have nearly the talent or skill of other people on P4P lists.
Mayweather, Pacquiao, Martinez, Donaire, Hopkins, Ward, Marquez, Khan, Gamboa, Bute, Cotto, Kessler...

Interestingly enough... Chris John has been champion at feather for 8 years and is undefeated at 45-0... We don't find HIM on ANY P4P lists... You know why?? Because he is a B- fighter fighting in a talent drained division (excluding Gamboa). Wladimir doesn't outskill anyone...he outsizes them.

As far as talent goes...
Chris John and Wladimir Klitschko are no different my friends...

How silly of a statement of course he outskills, ppl. How else would such a massive target be so hard to hit by a faster smaller fighter like Haye or Chambers if there was none or very little skill involved?

Having Donaire above him based on his 24 tuneups and 2 good wins is a joke at this point.

[KingOfBox]

How silly of a statement of course he outskills, ppl. How else would such a massive target be so hard to hit by a faster smaller fighter like Haye or Chambers if there was none or very little skill involved?

Having Donaire above him based on his 24 tuneups and 2 good wins is a joke at this point.

You're probably right... let me not get into it with you...

Lord knows what you think of Nikolai Valuev...

I bet he is awesome huh????

[Who are you?]

Having Donaire above him based on his 24 tuneups and 2 good wins is a joke at this point.

Agreed.

Even a guy like Sergio Martinez, obviously Sergio is a great fighter and his KO of Paul Williams was amazing.

But his KO over Williams is not as good as Wlad's run of 7 years as dominant champion.

Wladimir is the most dominant fighter in boxing and is on a 7 year championship run. Thats amazing and he outdoes guys like Martinez, Donaire, Mayweather, Ortiz, Marquez, Hopkins in that respect.

Klitschko is a very clear top3 P4P fighter and probably #1 or #2.

Its great to see that a lot of people think Klitschko is #1 P4P.

[Who are you?]

Wladimir has what is probably the best jab in boxing.

Amazing power which in over 90% of his fights results in a KO. His KO's or Byrd (HOFer), Brock were amazing. Decisions over Ibragimov and Haye are also extremely impressive.

Understand that Haye is a former undisputed world champion. Wladimir just totally outboxed him and won almost every round.

Wladimir is the most dominant fighter in boxing and a clear top3 P4P fighter. Probably #1 or #2.

[KingOfBox]

No P4P...

I have him ahead in ATG rankings. Wlad's style doesn't translate to lower weight classes, like Pacquiaos does to higher weight classes.

True.... Perfect example... Thats why its called P4P....

Skill-wise... If they were all the same size... who would be better...

Wladimir shouldn't even be Top 20 right now. He is #5 based on merit and nothing else.

[KingOfBox]

Wladimir has what is probably the best jab in boxing.

Amazing power which in over 90% of his fights results in a KO. His KO's or Byrd (HOFer), Brock were amazing. Decisions over Ibragimov and Haye are also extremely impressive.

Understand that Haye is a former undisputed world champion. Wladimir just totally outboxed him and won almost every round.

Wladimir is the most dominant fighter in boxing and a clear top3 P4P fighter. Probably #1 or #2.

None of his fights are impressive. period.

BTW Haye was an undisputed CRUISERWEIGHT World Champion. If Heavyweight is so talented then why are Vitali and Wladimir fighting or looking at fighting Cruiserweights. Adamek??? I mean seriously?? Adamek was in the ring opposite Dawson at one point... Granted, it isn't his fault he is massive and he uses his advantage well... But his skills are non-existent