Floyd has turned the tables on Manny in their chessmatch

[tredh]

"**** does that matter missing weight is missing weight dude. Its actually worse to miss the weight class you fighting in weight than it is to miss a catchweight."

the above is where you missed the entire essence of the posts....

missing a catch weight is not the same as missing the class weight.....

the class weight is what it is....a class weight...a weight already defined by the class or category a boxer is fighting in......

a catch weight is something boxers discuss, agree with and then stipulate in their signed agreement.....

a boxer missing his class weight as he is already outgrowing it needs to go up the weight ladder/class....this happens a lot and there is no shame on this....

but the same could not be said to a boxer who signed an agreed catch weight and comes in loaded, not meeting the agreed weight....this is cheating, plain and simple...

LLS at you thinking there is no shame in missing weight. GTFO here with that bull****. A defined weight class that fighters are used to making. If they miss something they are used to making that is actually worse cause you already know what is required of the body to make that weight. With a catchweight someone usually has to lose weight. Getting down to a weight they are not used to making so extra steps need to be taken. You make no ****ing sense.

They both were wrong but you too stuck on Manny to admit it. Missing weight is missing weight!!

You are a perfect example of the Washington Post slogan "If you don't get it you don't get it."

[Walt Liquor]

Blah, blah, blah. I've given plenty of perspective you just don't have anything to counter it with so now you have to resort to "fanboy" and ass kiss and the sorta stuff STRUGG spits out when he's defenseless. LOL @ what Floyd should do better. He's taken on the best available welterweight in his past two fights, it doesn't get much better than that. And thus, I'm not complaining. Objective? Find a mirror.

I agree, I already wrote in here that this is the first time in awhile I"ve been excited about 2 straight Floyd fights....and on top of that, there's 3 straight manny fights I haven't been excited about now.

Let's just agree to disagree on the testing demand and go back to normal!

[Walt Liquor]

dude. you're looking at things half-empty.

floyd's been saying he wants to fight Pac and fighting Ortiz who's a southpaw give a certain degree of credence to that. Heck, even Manny HIMSELF said so.

one thing boxing has proven is that it isn't predictable. So many things can happen in the next months to come and for all we know those two would actually fight each other.

true, i may be considered overly optimistic, but i'd rather hope for good things in boxing, enjoy the positive surprises and chalk up the horrible fights (pac vs mosley) as something to make us appreciate great fights even more.

i think the fight is gonna happen, but I think manny has to be the one that conceeds because he's looking increasingly suspect.

[jtiger777]

say what u want but floyd clearly has called out manny to be his next fight and from what i hear manny says hed take the test so we will see! floyd has done what everybody said he was scared to do, he adressed it and he did it BOLDLY

[littlemac]

nope.....

far from what is really meant......

pbf went over the jmm agreed catch weight, if i am not mistaken at 144, not 147......

the point is the amount $/lb would be a non-issue if no one goes over board the weight agreed at....history does not speak well on pbf following the agreed weight.....

the magnitude of this fight and the millions of money involve are staggering......

let us go over a scenario where everything and more were already in place....with venues set, sponsors tied-in, tickets sold, bets placed etc., etc.......

then one boxer, after so many attempts failed to meet the scales.........

and the fight was off as the other fighter refuse to fight.......what happens then???

do you think the penalty pbf paid for the excess pounds in the jmm bout will cover the damages for the cancelled fight?

then, another point is that the ost would be also a non-issue; as this is not called for by the boxing commissions and also if no one disrespect the other fighter......by making a baseless accusation....and compelling him to prove himself as if this is in the books...

LOL...you totally ducked my point on the right of a fighter to ask for better testing because of his opponent's trainner(Roach) history with roids lol.....

But I get it. Your backing a guy who doesn't want to insure a fair fight because his feelings were hurt lol.....Please man. Pac had his demands and his dictations on implementing non-commission penalty rules met, but your crying because a fighter is just asking for a better testing system so dont when or lose he will feel he wasn't cheated and is going in on a even playing field. Yet you have a problem with this because you only thing that Manny should only be the one to have the right to dictate anything LOL......Yeah dude that sounds really fair to me lol.....

[KRITKL]

i think the fight is gonna happen, but I think manny has to be the one that conceeds because he's looking increasingly suspect.

Agree with this. The ball is now in Pacs court, if he doesn't agree to some sort of random testing now the blame for this fight not happening will be on him

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Agreed ^^^^^^^^^^

[tangalog2200]

LLS at you thinking there is no shame in missing weight. GTFO here with that bull****. A defined weight class that fighters are used to making. If they miss something they are used to making that is actually worse cause you already know what is required of the body to make that weight. With a catchweight someone usually has to lose weight. Getting down to a weight they are not used to making so extra steps need to be taken. You make no ****ing sense.

They both were wrong but you too stuck on Manny to admit it. Missing weight is missing weight!!

You are a perfect example of the Washington Post slogan "If you don't get it you don't get it."

well you missed it by a mile......

a young fighter (not only pac then, but any other young fighter) missing a class weight is due to normal or biological development (specially if his body frame is bigger) ......it is still a failure to make weight but again, is borne out of the natural order of things.........

but a veteran fighter to miss a catch weight after all is said and done (and signed) is pure and simple cheating.....

that is why in the first place, i asked when and where did pac missed the weight???

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

well you missed it by a mile......

a young fighter (not only pac then, but any other young fighter) missing a class weight is due to normal or biological development (specially if his body frame is bigger) ......it is still a failure to make weight but again, is borne out of the natural order of things.........

but a veteran fighter to miss a catch weight after all is said and done (and signed) is pure and simple cheating.....

that is why in the first place, i asked when and where did pac missed the weight???

What if Floyd honestly just couldnt make the weight.

[borikua]

Take the test Manny.