Woweeee, awesome and totally relevant rejoinder to his post.
Ya fuckin' schmuck.
i kno it is hard to comprehend on your caliber of thinking that everytime pac has confirmed fight, floyd will comes out from his hibernating mode. can't blame you mate if you have a lmited brain cells..
Not trying to flame it out in here, just have an adult discussion.
There's so mich to type, so im going to start with my main point.
1) manny had a psychological edge in the beginning because floyd looked scared by forcing ost. Regardless of what fools who cant comprehend the big picture think, this is how the move was percieved and perception is reality. It doesnt take a genius to spin that story.
2) rumors circulate that manny agreed to floyds Demands with a cut off date, but its all heresay because they never made azhuge deal about it or publicly said (manny himself) that they would do anything to get floyd in the ring. This began to make manny look weak imo.
3) he continues to look weak by fighting arum retreads who have no business being in ppv's with manny.
4) floyd swoops in and fights the best ww not named floyd or manny and takes on a young gun who's hungry and badass at 147 while manny fights a
dude floyd shut out that is alreAdy probably fighting one weight class to high at lw. So he's a minimum of 2 weght classes out of his league.
All that adds up to floyd outplaying manny and bob. Bob was content to just take advantage of manny's fans and his reputation while floyd was biding his time and waiting to pull a checkmate type move.
Who the *** is manny gonna fight if he and floyd win? Khan is trained by roach so floyd has him. I guess its gonna have to be bradley who looked as out of place at ww as hatton did to me when he moved up. We know neither floyd nor manny is going to even glance in sergio's direction, so there's no one at 154.
You make some good points but I disagree that Manny is scared of fighting Floyd or has been psychologically affected by Floyd. Reason being that Manny hasn't been saying much, goes about his business and you know as well as I do that the fighters Manny has been facing are the best money option on the table.
You are right though, perception can be the truth some times and I think what is more important is what the public thinks in this case because they are the one's who are going to pay for the fight.
Outside of Mayweather fans, the people in this country and around the world want to see Floyd lose to Manny and that kills Floyd inside.
i kno it is hard to comprehend on your caliber of thinking that everytime pac has confirmed fight, floyd will comes out from his hibernating mode. can't blame you mate if you have a lmited brain cells..
Your argument would be valid if Bob Arum doesn't always announce Manny's next opponent. When Manny and Floyd could've fought in 2010 Bob had already promised the November date to Margarito. When Manny and floyd could've fought this year Bob had already started making arrangements for JMM3 BEFORE the Marg fight.
Manny hasn't been saying much, goes about his business and you know as well as I do that the fighters Manny has been facing are the best money option on the table.
Isn't that only because they are self contained within the top rank umbrella? Mosley and JMM fights were far bigger years ago.
Your argument would be valid if Bob Arum doesn't always announce Manny's next opponent. When Manny and Floyd could've fought in 2010 Bob had already promised the November date to Margarito. When Manny and floyd could've fought this year Bob had already started making arrangements for JMM3 BEFORE the Marg fight.
what can you do if floyd does not want to come out from his so called vacation before a confirm pac fights?
what can you do if floyd does not want to come out from his so called vacation before a confirm pac fights?
But that isn't what is going on. Again your argument isn't with floyd its with Bob. You are just pointing at floyd because you dislike him. To me, its no different then the NBA and NFL lockouts. The argument is not really between players and owners but large market and small market owners.
Your problem should be with Bob. He sells the BS that he is trying to make floyd pac fight yet he is really putting together a other top rank fight to make himself more money. I hate Bob but completely undertsnd his right to make his business profitable.
Despise floyd all you want but I think you realize this as well. This JMM 3 fight was much bigger 2 years ago. The only difference now is Bob stand s to profit more because JMM is with top rank.
I was shocked when Floyd made this fight,he is 34 years old and is taking on a 24 year old who looked huge at WW and beat up a very good Berto,it makes me think that Pacquiao is ducking the tests,not to mention Manny never speaks for himself he is like a puppet for Arum and Roach,its ok to tow the company line at times but i believe Manny has taken it a bit to far.
He fights Mosley who looked badly shot against a b level fighter in Mora,and is following it with a fight against Jmm years to late at a weight Jmm is clearly not effective at,but does that matter to the top rank crew hell no people are still paying to watch these crap fights against shells,at least Mayweather when he does fight goes after men coming off of huge wins.
a very nice summation of why the *******s have been going insane the last couple weeks. even their hopeless fanboy devotion and spin can't save Manny much face regarding all the cowardly fights he has been taking
what can you do if floyd does not want to come out from his so called vacation before a confirm pac fights?
They give him no chance to,if you notice the greedy old man is matching Manny with in house fighters,honestly i would respect a fight with Collazo more then jmm at this point at least he is a true ww.
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