Wladmir fears James Toney

[GranTorino]

Nice. Have some karma for that one!

[Chet]

Toney's fat ass would get handed to him inside of four rounds. You're chunky little idol would get manhandled like a prison *****.

Wlad would not stop Toney in four rounds. Toney is as durable a fighter as there is for one. He is one of the best defensive fighters ever. And If Wlad were to get overagressive with him he would fight out real quick what a James Toney left hook or straight right counter feels like. And I dont think he would like it, nobody seems to. Ruined Vassilliy Jirov, when he was once an Olympic Gold medalist, Undefeated Cruiserweight Champion.

[GranTorino]

Toney would have an extremely difficult time getting to Wlad through his jab and straight right hand, but with Wlad's poor chin and Toney's ring savy, who knows maybe Toney has a chance. It would be an interesting fight.

It would be interesting to see Toney matched vs Sam Peter. Peter would play right into Toney's game trying to pound him against the ropes, and Toney would pick him apart in my opinion.

Wlad's poor chin?

Maybe you dont have cable and didnt know this, so I'll educate you.

Wlad was nailed, big time, by Samuel Peter's bread and butter knockout punch (you know, the one that knocked all the other fighters out) and shook the ****er off and kept coming and still won the fight.

[Chet]

Wlad's poor chin?

Maybe you dont have cable and didnt know this, so I'll educate you.

Wlad was nailed, big time, by Samuel Peter's bread and butter knockout punch (you know, the one that knocked all the other fighters out) and shook the ****er off and kept coming and still won the fight.

There are probably fighters with worse Chins. But Wlad's chin is indeed poor.

His chin is a detraction rather than a benefit is it not?

[GranTorino]

There are probably fighters with worse Chins. But Wlad's chin is indeed poor.

Dude...

okay, I'll put it more simply...

How can a fighter with a bad chin withstand the best punch of a ko artist like Sam Peter?

It would only be a detraction if it were true that his chin is an issue, which it clearly is not.

[Chet]

His chin IS a detraction. It IS poor.

[GranTorino]

His chin is a detraction rather than a benefit is it not?

see my post above

[GranTorino]

His chin IS a detraction. It IS poor.

No, it's not.

[riz]

LOL!!!!!!!

[Chet]

If you have an attribute as a fighter that is a detraction rather than a benefit. I think you need to classify that attribute then as poor. It is very simple logic. And like I said HE DOES NOT HAVE THE WORST CHIN IN THE WORLD. ok. It just is not good, it is not beneficial, it is a detraction, it is poor.