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Stevie Collins was calling out Roy Jones at every opportunity for no fewer than six years (93 to 99) and the German Darius was calling out Roy Jones at every opportunity for no fewer than seven years (96 to 03),now how those fights didnt ever happen well only Roy can answer that.
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This issue is debated a lot...but if we were being truly honest - Roy Jones wud have outclassed these opponents.
Nigel Benn was finished after the GMac fight - i think that fight took everything out of benn and he was neva the same fighter again. I think Roy wud have picked Benn apart cos of Benn's straight up go forward style. In an interview Juy Juy sent couple of days ago benn himself spoke of roy jones with the utmost of respect and basically said he was second to him in the diviison
I think the collins fight wud have been a bit like the roy v vinne p fight....pressure fighter who roy picks off - thou i think steve collins wud have made it a lot closer.
For me steve collins fought the wat glen johnson fights now - and i think we all agree in roy jones' prime he wudnt have lost to johnson.Comment
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Nah man im in canada, never been 2 england in my lifeOriginally posted by dinoComment
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You know, it's ****ing Ridiculous when you think about it. All the best fighters were calling out Jones Jr but he didn't fight any of them. It's ridiculous man. I remember when Collins was coming out of retirement in 1999 to challenge Jones Jr, why didn't the fight happen then FFS?Originally posted by Pugilistic_PolarbearComment
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Originally posted by Super Cruiserweight
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Roy fought by far the best guy at 168 in James Toney why have to fight the # 2 or # 5 guy?Comment
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At the time of the Toney-Jones fight, Benn and Eubank were top two at 168. However, Toney was lb4lb #1 (defeated lb4lb star Nunn at 160 and remained unbeaten despite poor performances, then Whitaker on the slide at the same time as Toney pulls out good wins against Littles and Williams).Originally posted by Sir_JoseComment
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Originally posted by JUYJUY
You are so full of **** it is amazing. James Toney was regarded as one of the 3 best p4p fighters on the planet at that time yet you try and tell me he was ranked 3rd in his own division.
Please dont forget wins over Mike McCallum and Iran Barkley for Toney aswell.Comment
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The unknown Toney became a lb4lb star after defeating lb4lb star Nunn, but despite poor performance after poor performance he was remaining unbeaten and so couldn't really drop out of the lb4lb rankings. He got his gifts against a washed-up McCallum at 160, and Barkley was atleast five years past his best. It wasn't until his win over undefeated Tim Littles (after suffering a cut eye from a clash of heads with Littles, Toney was given one more and just went out there and stopped him) that he clawed his way into top five lb4lb. And it wasn't until Whitaker's poor performances and Toney's impressive win over Prince Charles Williams that Toney became lb4lb #1.Originally posted by Sir_Jose
But the top two at 168 had been Benn and Eubank for years, they had about 50 world title fights between them at that weight and their fights were screened World-Wide whereas Toney only made about two of three defences at that weight and his fights were only screened in America (those that were screened at all).
KO Magazine rankings had Benn and Eubank top two at 168, with Toney lb4lb #1. And rightfully so.Comment
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And anyway after Benn defeated top five lb4lb McClellan he became lb4lb #2, while Toney dropped out of the lb4lb rankings altogether after his loss to Griffin (although I think he did enough to get a draw with Griffin).Last edited by JUYJUY; 10-05-2005, 01:22 PM.Comment
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Zzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzz huh wha huh? Oh are you still talking?Comment
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