did Roy duck Benn and Collins?

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  • Londonerzz
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    #41
    Originally posted by JUYJUY
    And anyway after Benn defeated top five lb4lb McClellan he became lb4lb #2, while Toney dropped out of the lb4lb rankings altogether after his loss to Griffin (although I think he did enough to get a draw with Griffin).
    and who was number 1 £4£ during this period? oh thats right....Roy Jones Jr.

    Face it - benn wud have lost to roy jones. benn didnt even beat eubank or collins! He wasnt even the best fighter in britain. Oh and watson beat him to, and malinga. Damn.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Super Cruiserweight
      did RJJ duck Nigel Benn or Steve Collings? i dont think he would of if they was calling him out and was willing to come to the US and fight, no way RJJ would duck such a ****ty fighter like Collings
      don't know if he ducked them, but he sure had no reason too. At the time, neither one of those guys would have stood a chance against Jones.

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      • Moschino045
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        #43
        I think the Benn against G Man ot the PreGMAN Benn if he was at his best woulda broken RJJs glass chin at some point and it pains me to say this becauseRJJ is one of my herso. Collins would have been outclassed

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          #44
          Originally posted by Londonerzz
          benn didnt even beat eubank or collins! He wasnt even the best fighter in britain. Oh and watson beat him to, and malinga. Damn.
          I think Benn beat Eubank at 168 (Eubank got it all wrong in his preparations 'filling out' for Benn, he looked so sloppy compared to his usual slick self), and Benn certainly would of beaten Collins if he wasn't shot. We all know what happened in the Watson fight, Benn looked awesome. I felt Malinga did enough to get a draw with Benn in the first fight, but if the referee did his job right Benn would of won the second fight even though he was shot (if referee hadn't called that clear slip at the end a "knockdown" Benn would of got the decision in second Malinga fight).

          You'll remember after the second Collins fight, when the crowd were booing Benn, Collins grabbed the microphone and said "You people should be ashamed of yourselves, that man (Benn) is the best fighter that Britain has ever produced so get up on your feet and give him a round of applause."

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            #45
            Originally posted by Super Cruiserweight
            Hatton was nine yrs younger than Zoo and Zoo had been very inactive. Collins was five yrs older than RJJ and RJJ had been putting on breathtaking displays every couple mnths.

            Hatton is better than Collins
            RJJ is better than Zoo

            Hatton was quick and Zoo wasnt

            Collins was sslloooooooooww.., RJJ was FAST!

            ****** comparison dude, ******.
            By the way I dont rate Hatton or Tszyu as highly as most, I think PBF would be far too quick for Tszyu is they fought and RJJ is different class to Hatton or Tszyu they couldnt carry his jockstrap. (Nige was better p4p than Hatton IMO).

            Hatton isnt even the best 140 pounder in britain let alone the world.
            Last edited by Moschino045; 10-05-2005, 05:45 PM.

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              #46
              (Witter is the only fighter who has a chance against PBF)

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              • Londonerzz
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                #47
                Moschino - Roy Jones one of my heroes to...i just dont think been wud have connected. I reckon RJJ wud have run away as much as he cud and out box the guy....kinda like wat pbf wud try and do against hatton. I really wanna see that fight happen...i dont think pbf can knock hatton out (hatton took some serious licks against tzyu and survived fine) so i reckon it will go 12rds watever....

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                  #48
                  I just watched a couple of Collins fights & i agree this guy was one tough cookie, he could walk through punches. He had no talent though and just relied on brawling tactics. Collins VERY dirty fighter- uses the head alot (leads with head and rubs his head against opponents head kind of thing), grabbin opponents arm while he bashes in uppercuts or kidney shots or elbows to neck. A disgrace to the sport of boxing which is supposed to be an art not a streetfight. Collins looks to me like he never really learned how to punch properly, but ofcourse he was very effective cos i guess opponents werent expectin poor quality and such awkward brawling. With a good referee he would be DQ'd against RJJ or if he tried to trade punches then RJJ would batter him and I'd fear for Collins health,

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                  • Moschino045
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                    #49
                    That guy Collins was actually grabbin a guy in a headlock from da front with one arm while he pounded away at him with his other arm, some body needed to teach him a lesson

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                    • JUYJUY
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Moschino045
                      I just watched a couple of Collins fights & i agree this guy was one tough cookie, he could walk through punches. He had no talent though and just relied on brawling tactics. Collins VERY dirty fighter- uses the head alot (leads with head and rubs his head against opponents head kind of thing), grabbin opponents arm while he bashes in uppercuts or kidney shots or elbows to neck. A disgrace to the sport of boxing which is supposed to be an art not a streetfight. Collins looks to me like he never really learned how to punch properly, but ofcourse he was very effective cos i guess opponents werent expectin poor quality and such awkward brawling. With a good referee he would be DQ'd against RJJ or if he tried to trade punches then RJJ would batter him and I'd fear for Collins health,
                      Was one of those fights against Carr?

                      Last edited by JUYJUY; 10-06-2005, 11:57 PM.

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