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did RJJ duck Nigel Benn or Steve Collings? i dont think he would of if they was calling him out and was willing to come to the US and fight, no way RJJ would duck such a ****ty fighter like Collings
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But after Benn's poor performance against Nardiello and RJjnr's awesome performance against Pazienza, Benn was made to rethink and then admitted that RJjnr was righteously 'the man' .. after the McClellan fight I think Benn was p4p no.2 .. but with Benn on the slide (he dropped outside top 5 after poor performances against Nardiello and Perez) he knew that all he could do was just throw everything at RJjnr for three or four rounds and hope for the best, and he DID want the fight ..Originally posted by JUYJUY
Here are the quotes from Benn the following day after his fight with Nardiello-
Ian Darke: "The guy you would really love to fight is Roy Jones Jnr, but that is going to be a hard fight to make politically, you thinks he's number one."
Benn: "I dont mind being number two to Roy Jones and I would really really like to fight Roy Jones. He will frighten me, and thats what I need and he does that. But I'm not saying ooooooh I'm scared of him, but I will be up for that fight. I will be up for that fight like a mother, so please God, Don King, Frank Warren, I will fight him in his back garden, wait my back garden. I'd love to fight him, he is the only one who is gonna give me that real fear, Gerald McClellan never gave me no real fear. I'm talking about, this guy is really going to put the fear of God in me."
Steve Collins on Sky after the Benn II fight-
Ian Darke: "Now you have beaten Chris Eubank twice and now Nigel Benn twice, Who do you want now?"
Steve Collins: "The fight I've been looking for, for a long time is Roy Jones. But Roy Jones is running scared, he fights nobodies, he fights men with prison records not boxing records. If Roy Jones doesn't fight then people will remember him as the man who was afraid of Steve Collins. Eubank had a much longer unbeaten record than Roy Jones, just as much skill as Roy Jones, better names on his record than Roy Jones like Nigel Benn and Michael Watson, what Roy Jones has is speed and power but if I can withstand Nigel's best shots then I will have no problem withstanding whatever Roy Jones throws at me. And with me being the out and out forward punching pressure fighter I first used to upset Eubank and win every fight since, I think he knows he's better off avoiding Steve Collins. I'm a monster at super, Nigel's shots were bouncing off me, I'm not saying they didn't hurt because they did but I'm not doing myself any favours if I wanna fight Roy Jones, He's more scared."
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above is my post from another thread copied and pasted.
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My opinion is that no he did not duck Benn or Collins .. the truth is that Don King wanted options on RJjnr so the Benn fight wasnt happening, but then RJjnr's people were at the Malinga fight and they had a contract ready for Benn to sign but Benn lost the fight and retired ..
According to ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY on this board, Collins wanted 5 MILLION to fight RJjnr which was fantasy money so the fight didn't happen, that was ****** money to ask forLast edited by theclawoftheTiger; 10-03-2005, 12:19 PM.Comment
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Collins Told Hbo He Wanted 5 Milion For The Fight. That Is Why The Fight Never Happened.Comment
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Thanks for setting the record straight about that. People on these boards seem to think it's only Roy fault that these fights didn't happen.Comment
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QUESTION: Steve, Roy Jones Jnr showed absolutely no interest in fighting you for a unification fight at super-middleweight. It's difficult to believe that the man who has been the best pound-for-pound fighter for the past 10 years or more would have been scared of you in the slightest. What was the real reason the fight never even got to the negotiation table?
James Slattery
STEVE COLLINS: Well James, I travelled to Pensacola to see Roy Jones fight and I actually climbed into the ring after his fight. I accused him of avoiding me and I challenged him live on national TV. At the post-fight conference I spoke to Jones and the press, I called him a coward and a yellow dog and I offered to fight him, winners take all. I would have beaten Roy Jones and he knew it!
source: http://www.skysports.com/skysports/a...160284,00.htmlComment
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Steve Collins Would Have Stood No Chance Against The 168 Pound Jones. None At All.Comment
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I agree totally, i think the best collins could have done is last the distance due to his very good chin. However, Collins did want the fight bad and actually went to Florida on the Roy Jones Vs Mike McCulliam card and called him out.Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
No doubt i think Jones would have beaten him but Collins demanding 5 million for the fight....this is like ending the fight right there. Why would Collins be so greedy if he really believed he could take Jones?Comment
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Is this the same Steve Collins that claims Rocky Marciano would of beaten Muhammad Ali?Originally posted by JUYJUY
So who was the toughest man ever to step into the ring?
In my mind, it will always be Rocky Marciano. He was the hardest of the hardest. The best heavyweight ever. He would have beaten Muhammad Ali.
But he was only 13 stone 8 pounds - a lot less than most modern heavyweights...
[Interjects] Yeah, but he was the same size as Tyson and could hit like Tyson - and had more durability and hardness.
Collins is deranged.Comment
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I agree. To me Jones was at his best at that weight & Collins would've been thoroughly DOMINATED. He might not have been KO'ed but he would've lost bad.Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLYComment
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