did Roy duck Benn and Collins?

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  • dino
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    #21
    Originally posted by Super Cruiserweight
    did RJJ duck Nigel Benn or Steve Collings? i dont think he would of if they was calling him out and was willing to come to the US and fight, no way RJJ would duck such a ****ty fighter like Collings
    u must be from england..benn ducked roy and steve collins wasnt were fighting..he is and was a nobody.

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    • Orange Sneakers
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      #22
      Collins would cause Roy problems and if you cant see that then theres something not right with you,I'm talking about the 95-97 bull of war here and he would cause Roy problems by being at Roy's chest. Roy has not ever had an opponent with the workrate,fearlessness and durablity of Collins,if Collins managed to cause alot of infighting with Roy then his aggressiveness and workrate would win him some rounds.

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      • theclawoftheTiger
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        #23
        Stevie Collins was always very awkward and ultra-tough .. and The Celtic Warrior he became would cause ANYBODY problems! Stevie was always as tough as nails but Boston's Steve Collins could be outboxed with speed and good defence .. however, you just have to remember that Boston's Steve Collins is NOT The Celtic Warrior .. lets get this straight, NOBODY would be able to 'dominate' The Celtic Warrior, I think that those who say Collins has no chance are both very biased towards RJjnr and are only considering Boston's Steve Collins rather than The Celtic Warrior version of Steve Collins!

        I'm a fan of RJjnr but I appreciate Stevie and what he went on to achieve after letting his frustration out on Eubank's sparring partner Pyatt that took him out of depression .. and with the help of a hypnotist, Freddie Roach, and a weight-training coach he somehow managed to defeat Eubank (though controversial) ending Eubank's long undefeated record in a huge shock upset with tonnes of determination in front of his Irish people and then live the life that he'd always dreamed .. respect ..

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          #24
          Originally posted by Pugilistic_Polarbear
          Collins would cause Roy problems and if you cant see that then theres something not right with you,I'm talking about the 95-97 bull of war here and he would cause Roy problems by being at Roy's chest. Roy has not ever had an opponent with the workrate,fearlessness and durablity of Collins,if Collins managed to cause alot of infighting with Roy then his aggressiveness and workrate would win him some rounds.
          I compare Collins to Merqui Sosa & he'd get dominated just the same. If you ever saw him fight he was a durable pressure chest to chest type fighter & Jones destroyed & dominated fighters like that. The 94-97 version Jones would be extremely hard to beat for anyone from 175 down to middle.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Knicksman20
            I compare Collins to Merqui Sosa & he'd get dominated just the same. If you ever saw him fight he was a durable pressure chest to chest type fighter & Jones destroyed & dominated fighters like that. The 94-97 version Jones would be extremely hard to beat for anyone from 175 down to middle.
            With all due respect,Merqui Sosa wasn't The Celtic Warrior.

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              #26
              Originally posted by theclawoftheTiger
              With all due respect,Merqui Sosa wasn't The Celtic Warrior.
              They're similar in styles but Collins may have been a little more polished but not by much. Regardless Jones would've embarassed Collins into retirement.

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                #27
                Benn would have ****ED JONES UP SIX WAYS FROM SUNDAY. I like Jones, keep this in mind. I'm just saying, Benn would definately have beaten jones back then inside six rounds. This is why Jones never fought him..

                Nigel Benn is the type of person who would actually have a chance vs 12 or 13 regular people beating him down in a parking lot because he'd KEEP GETTING BACK UP...


                I can see Jones watching a Benn fight in the mid 90s..."Damn, that guys tough, I don't wanna **** with that monster.."

                as much as i like jones, i laughed when he said this on the Countdown to Tarver Jones 3..."other people should bet dey money on me cuz im ready to give my life"

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                • JUYJUY
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                  #28
                  88 Benn Vs 91 RJ would of been scarey while it lasted, I'd probably go with Benn because rushing in more (RJ tended to rush in abit back then) against the Benn of 88 would be a big, big mistake for anybody.

                  Benn that fought McClellan against Jones Jr that fought Toney would be a damn good fight, both men are more brittle than McClellan and Toney, but you'd have to go with Benn if he turned it into a slugfest and Jones Jr decided to trade.
                  Last edited by JUYJUY; 10-04-2005, 12:54 PM.

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                    #29
                    So what was the McCallum V Collings fight like

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Super Cruiserweight
                      So what was the McCallum V Collings fight like
                      Collins suffered stage fright but once he got into the fight I would say that he won about three or four of the last five or six rounds, I remember the fight featured alot of infighting with the judges favoring McCallum's accuracy over Collins' aggression although every round round was very competitive, I mean that no round McCallum won was a blowout and every round was close .. McCallum was stripped of the WBA title for not giving Collins a rematch, I believe Collins could of outworked McCallum a couple years later in the rematch when McCallum was an older, slower, less active version, it would of probably been either 6-6 or 7-5 either way if they had a rematch because Collins wouldnt be so nervous from the start ..
                      Collins certainly was robbed against Reggie Johnson and I believe Reggie Johnson around that time would of been a little too slick and quick for McCallum around that time (although the McCallum that fought Collins a couple of years earlier would of had way too much for Reggie Johnson) ..

                      McCallum quickly let it be known after the Collins fight that no ammount of money would entice him back into a ring with Collins again! A few years ago Mike described Collins as "the hardest man I ever faced" ..

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