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  • HandSpeed303
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    #101
    Originally posted by WESS
    Ok I'll take back everyone as you seem to assume I mean every single person in the world... I'm talking about every fight fan out there wanted the fight until Judah lost to Baldo. ALL they fans (not everyone in the world) got what they wanted just not when they wanted it which goes back to my point that has been Floyds case for sometime.

    It was with Judah, Hatton, Hoya, Mosley and will be with Pac. Funny thing is, as soon as there's a new champ (Ortiz) and Floyd fights him right away, its considered garbage (by the extreme pac fans of course).
    Listen, before the Baldie fight yes, the talk of Floyd/Zab had boxing fans licking their chops. Including me. My fire burned bright for that fight! After the Baldi fight, a cold bucket of water was thrown on my fire...Did it put it out? No, it didn't.

    I just simply was not that interested in the figh anymore (not like I was before the Baldi fight)...Along with many other "boxing fans"..

    Not every "boxing fan" stayed hugly interested in the fight after the loss.

    That is all I was saying. Pre Baldi? Yes! Post Baldi? Not so much.

    Also, I have given Floyd credit for all his wins.

    Also, I like the Ortiz Floyd fight.

    Also, I didn't assume you meant everyone in the world...Don't be silly.

    Lastly, it doesn't matter what people try to discredit Floyd, and his fights/wins/choice of opponent. I make up my own mind. I was more angry at Zab for taking the fight down a notch. Than I was at Floyd for choosing to fight him.

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      #102
      I wasnt excited for the Judah-Floyd fight until I seen Zab giving May the business. Then the fight fan in me took over.


      Hindsight is always 20-20. Zab took a guy lightly played around in the ring and lost people act like Baldi butt ****d Zab. And he didnt.

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        #103
        Originally posted by mrjoeblive
        hold on speed. let me clarify. when i say double standard, im talking about the media not you. i shoud have made myself clear. i have no problem with your post.
        No doubt pimp.

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          #104
          Originally posted by No Ceilings
          I wasnt excited for the Judah-Floyd fight until I seen Zab giving May the business. Then the fight fan in me took over.

          Hindsight is always 20-20. Zab took a guy lightly played around in the ring and lost people act like Baldi butt ****d Zab. And he didnt.
          Wow...

          For the first time in a long time, I agree with you 100%.

          Zab didn't get blown out. He lost a close fight.

          Bold: Can't argue that! I went through the samething.

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            #105
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            If Judah loses to a Zaveck type fighter. Who the **** would still want to Floyd-Pac.

            More importantly than who is when man.

            I swear extremist Floyd fans like you are just as pathetic as extremist Pac fans. My goodness excuses after excuses.
            Your wrong at the time we are talking I was major Judah fan. Mayweather has nothing to do with it.

            Your attempting to tell me Judah was shyt because of one fight. After a course of several mental break downs like he did I would agree with you but Judah was still game at THAT TIME. It wasn't until later did he fall off. He just got ******.

            Mayweather vs Judah was not complete garbage like Pac vs a Mosley that hadnt won a fight in nearly 2 years. Was turning 39 and lost embarrassingly to Mayweather and couldn't beat a joke like Mora. Judah was more creditable than Mosley. Mosley was just a name at that point. Judah was one fight off from being a WW titlist.

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              #106
              Originally posted by WESS
              Your wrong at the time we are talking I was major Judah fan. Mayweather has nothing to do with it.

              Your attempting to tell me Judah was shyt because of one fight. After a course of several mental break downs like he did I would agree with you but Judah was still game at THAT TIME. It wasn't until later did he fall off. He just got ******.

              Mayweather vs Judah was not complete garbage like Pac vs a Mosley that hadnt won a fight in nearly 2 years. Was turning 39 and lost embarrassingly to Mayweather and couldn't beat a joke like Mora. Judah was more creditable than Mosley. Mosley was just a name at that point. Judah was one fight off from being a WW titlist.
              Judah was overrated but that's irrelevant. Judah gave a pathetic performance against a journeyman. A journeyman. It was a garbage waste of time fight for Floyd. The fight shouldn't have taken place.

              Garbage is garbage no matter how you try to spin it.

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                #107
                Originally posted by HandSpeed303
                Wow...

                For the first time in a long time, I agree with you 100%.

                Zab didn't get blown out. He lost a close fight.

                Bold: Can't argue that! I went through the samething.
                You see as a Zab Judah fan that was why I wanted the fight. Its why ALL the boxing fans (not everyone in the world) wanted the fight before Judah lost to Baldo.

                I knew it would have been good and possibly better if Zab didn't turn ******ed half way through.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Judah was overrated but that's irrelevant. Judah gave a pathetic performance against a journeyman. A journeyman. It was a garbage waste of time fight for Floyd. The fight shouldn't have taken place.

                  Garbage is garbage no matter how you try to spin it.
                  Well you can say what ever, as a fan of Zab Judah I called for the fight, ALL the fans of boxing called for the fight (pre Baldo) and we got it. It was a good fight until Judah went ******ed. IMO the fight would have been the same regardless if Baldo was ever born and I'm sure excuses would have been made by many then too.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by WESS
                    You see as a Zab Judah fan that was why I wanted the fight. Its why ALL the boxing fans (not everyone in the world) wanted the fight before Judah lost to Baldo.

                    I knew it would have been good and possibly better if Zab didn't turn ******ed half way through.
                    Bold: LOL! You are killing me Wess. We understand each other now (lol), no more need to keep pointing that out.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by WESS
                      Well you can say what ever, as a fan of Zab Judah I called for the fight, ALL the fans of boxing called for the fight (pre Baldo) and we got it. It was a good fight until Judah went ******ed. IMO the fight would have been the same regardless if Baldo was ever born and I'm sure excuses would have been made by many then too.
                      Exactly Pre Baldo. Post Baldo no one was calling for it. And, rightfully so...

                      More importantly than who is when. And, that is what you don't understand.

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