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  • tatangb45
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    #51
    Originally posted by Chopper417
    Mayweather signed the contract to fight Pac, true or false?
    You are really very persistent. Post that signed contract and prove yourself right. Without that, this topic is pointless and...never mind.

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    • PacFansAreBakla
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      #52
      Originally posted by tatangb45
      Those were public statements. They came from the man himself. How much clearer can you get?
      So now the excuse is, it is not valid unless the whole team Pac comes out and call a big press conference to satisfy Floyd and his fans. Right. Make it appear that team Pac is very desperate to get to FMJ. What if FMJ ignores this. Would team Pac not look ******? Considering the type of people the Mayweathers are, it is not far-fetched that they will use this to add another demand. 60/40 or no fight.
      You just dont get it man. They have given too many conflicting statements. I think most people would be satisfied if they would just give 1 consistent statement. Not everyone saying something different and then contradicting what was said or what someone else said in a later interview.

      It is in no way to seem desperate. If anything it would serve to shut Floyd up. Hes said the whole time. Take the test we got a fight. Hes whole team has always said, take the test we got a fight. Every statement, every interview. Never changes.

      Pac has a random video stating he will but anyone can show you many more videos were he says he will not, or other members of his camp saying they wont. Which should we believe? What would shut Floyd up and show who is at fault more than calling up ESPN or whatever media outlet and saying you wanna do an interview and go on record stating that they agree to random testing with no cutoff? A show of solidarity. That would force Floyds hand. It would be put up or shut up time.

      I think theres a reason for the smoke screen and lack of an official statement... If you cant see it by now, you probably never will till the band wagon has rode off into the sunset with Pacs money and legacy. Ill bet you Arum will be driving that wagon too.

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        #53
        Originally posted by brick wall
        my post is about reasonable demands and sensible opinions so obviously it's not for you. go find someone else to talk to with the same ****rider mindset as you.
        Better and stricter testing is unreasonable but 10 mil per lb is reasonable and sensible?

        Idiot. Dumbass *******s
        Last edited by Pacquiao'd; 06-24-2011, 03:54 PM.

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        • tatangb45
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          #54
          Originally posted by SuicideMachine
          You just dont get it man. They have given too many conflicting statements. I think most people would be satisfied if they would just give 1 consistent statement. Not everyone saying something different and then contradicting what was said or what someone else said in a later interview.

          It is in no way to seem desperate. If anything it would serve to shut Floyd up. Hes said the whole time. Take the test we got a fight. Hes whole team has always said, take the test we got a fight. Every statement, every interview. Never changes.

          Pac has a random video stating he will but anyone can show you many more videos were he says he will not, or other members of his camp saying they wont. Which should we believe? What would shut Floyd up and show who is at fault more than calling up ESPN or whatever media outlet and saying you wanna do an interview and go on record stating that they agree to random testing with no cutoff? A show of solidarity. That would force Floyds hand. It would be put up or shut up time.

          I think theres a reason for the smoke screen and lack of an official statement... If you cant see it by now, you probably never will till the band wagon has rode off into the sunset with Pacs money and legacy. Ill bet you Arum will be driving that wagon too.
          You don't get it. You are just giving one excuse after another to protect FMJ. Pac has said it himself. It is public and documented. Whatever the others have said are irrelevant. For the nth time and try to digest this slowly and carefully; these are public and documented statements from Pac where he clearly states that he accepts FMJ's demands. FMJ can easily pull these statements and throw it to Pac's face and say, "give me the proposal that contains this stipulation and I will sign it".
          You, FMJ and the rest of his rabid fans continue to ignore what came from Pac himself. Repeating the mantra "take the test, take the test" only strengthens the argument that FMJ is scared to face Pac.

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          • THe TRiNiTY
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            #55
            Originally posted by Vegan102
            Which one is Fact and which one is opinion?

            Floyd is scared to fight.

            Manny refused random blood testing during negotiations.


            Before you answer here are some definitions

            fact/fakt/Noun
            1. A thing that is indisputably the case.
            2. Information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article

            o·pin·ion/əˈpinyən/Noun
            1. A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
            2. The beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing.
            The first is opinion. The second is fact.

            What's your point? What would this prove? Now, without stating an opinion, give me the reason Manny didn't want to take the test.

            Don't use opinions. No assumption. No speculation. Fact.

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              #56
              Originally posted by tatangb45
              You don't get it. You are just giving one excuse after another to protect FMJ. Pac has said it himself. It is public and documented. Whatever the others have said are irrelevant. For the nth time and try to digest this slowly and carefully; these are public and documented statements from Pac where he clearly states that he accepts FMJ's demands. FMJ can easily pull these statements and throw it to Pac's face and say, "give me the proposal that contains this stipulation and I will sign it".
              You, FMJ and the rest of his rabid fans continue to ignore what came from Pac himself. Repeating the mantra "take the test, take the test" only strengthens the argument that FMJ is scared to face Pac.
              Thats what youre missing. Its not excuse after excuse. If you want to call it an excuse fine. I wont debate semantics, but its ONE ****ING EXCUSE. Not changing it every few weeks.

              You have one video. Why are there so many others that contradict the ONE video? Why does that video say nothing about random testing? Can you even tell me who it is asking him the questions? If thats their official statement why is the only version of it some ****ty video from an unknown? You know Bob loves the media, why doesnt he have his puppet going to every major network? Did it cross your mind that maybe Manny ****ed up? Maybe he said that cause QUOTE "Manny doesnt know what hes given"...

              It doesnt seem the slightest bit sketchy to you that when the real cameras are on and the interviewer has a name and a face the mention of testing and Floyd never comes up? Why do you think that is?

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                #57
                Originally posted by SuicideMachine
                Thats what youre missing. Its not excuse after excuse. If you want to call it an excuse fine. I wont debate semantics, but its ONE ****ING EXCUSE. Not changing it every few weeks.

                You have one video. Why are there so many others that contradict the ONE video? Why does that video say nothing about random testing? Can you even tell me who it is asking him the questions? If thats their official statement why is the only version of it some ****ty video from an unknown? You know Bob loves the media, why doesnt he have his puppet going to every major network? Did it cross your mind that maybe Manny ****ed up? Maybe he said that cause QUOTE "Manny doesnt know what hes given"...

                It doesnt seem the slightest bit sketchy to you that when the real cameras are on and the interviewer has a name and a face the mention of testing and Floyd never comes up? Why do you think that is?
                From your chosen name, it seems to indicate why you are so persistent. This question was asked to another poster but it aptly applies to you too. Have you not come across the statement where Pac said "even in between rounds if that is what he wants"? This has been circulating in the internet for several months now. If you have not seen or read that interview that was posted around the time of the Margo fight, then it would be best for you to research this.
                With regards to videos of Pac that conflicted the statements in this interview, I would suggest for you to look at when this statements were made and study the timeline. Those videos that contradicted Pac's latest statement were done at an earlier period closer to the first negotiation. These were later revised with the intention of trying to get closer to FMJ's moving goal post. And now we are at the point where Pac himself has discarded the cut-off day but the denial and excuses of FMJ and his critics continue.
                If you can post an interview or video made by Pac after the interview being referred here, I will gladly admit my mistake. If not, I would expect you to do the same.

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                • eklok
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                  #58
                  Ts is an idiot!!!


                  Imo!!!

                  Lol!!

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                  • Gutz
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by eklok
                    Ts is an idiot!!!


                    Imo!!!

                    Lol!!


                    TS is an idiot = fact...

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                    • eklok
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Gutz
                      TS is an idiot = fact...
                      in my opinion he's an idiot

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