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  • tatangb45
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    #41
    Originally posted by Chopper417
    I honestly don't understand your point bro. Manny had the opportunity to agree to the testing and didn't, is that incorrect?
    Where have you been? Pac has already made a public statement accepting Floyd's demands. Actually, twice on record. Do you want him to keep on repeating himself to your satisfaction?

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      #42
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      You can have random testing, when you have no idea when it will be... all the way up until a week before the fight.

      You're arguing a cut off... I'm arguing the initial argument, which is random.

      You're not going to load up on EPO or HGH DURING fight week, you're not even training hard during fight week... everything is tapering down, and you are doing calithetics, and light workouts just to keep your body active.

      A 2 week cutoff I don't like, because the week before fight week, you are peaking and training your hardest... but a cut off during fight week is absolutely fine.
      don't know much about peds but if that's true then there's no more excuse for the fight not to happen. pac already agreed to a 7-day cutoff so that's should be perfectly fine for floyd and his crusade or whatever his reasons were.

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        #43
        Originally posted by brick wall
        don't know much about peds but if that's true then there's no more excuse for the fight not to happen. pac already agreed to a 7-day cutoff so that's should be perfectly fine for floyd and his crusade or whatever his reasons were.
        It's Floyd demand. He doesnt have to do 7 days if he doesnt wqnt to. And why should he, when the last time he gave pac exactly whqt Pacroid asked for just to have pac.refuse. Floyd didn't ask pac to compromise on pacs demands so the same has to be said about floyds demands

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          #44
          Originally posted by tatangb45
          Where have you been? Pac has already made a public statement accepting Floyd's demands. Actually, twice on record. Do you want him to keep on repeating himself to your satisfaction?
          I would like to see him state that he is willing in a legit interview through a reputable source. Not an off hand comment, to some Randy.

          Maybe a press conference with Pac, Arum, and Roach all agreeing and stating that that are willing to do random testing with no known cutoff date.

          Not random here and there interviews, 1 interview where they are all stating the same thing.

          All they have been doing is blowing smoke. Basically making it unclear what exactly they will agree to. All to buy time and keep making it look like its Floyd holding up the fight.

          EDIT: Floyd has gone on record many times saying the same thing, it never changes. Theres been way too many different responses from Pacs side. How about they answer officially and together.
          Last edited by PacFansAreBakla; 06-24-2011, 01:15 PM.

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          • brick wall
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            #45
            Originally posted by yesir
            It's Floyd demand. He doesnt have to do 7 days if he doesnt wqnt to. And why should he, when the last time he gave pac exactly whqt Pacroid asked for just to have pac.refuse. Floyd didn't ask pac to compromise on pacs demands so the same has to be said about floyds demands
            my post is about reasonable demands and sensible opinions so obviously it's not for you. go find someone else to talk to with the same ****rider mindset as you.

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              #46
              Originally posted by SuicideMachine
              I would like to see him state that he is willing in a legit interview through a reputable source. Not an off hand comment, to some Randy.

              Maybe a press conference with Pac, Arum, and Roach all agreeing and stating that that are willing to do random testing with no known cutoff date.

              Not random here and there interviews, 1 interview where they are all stating the same thing.

              All they have been doing is blowing smoke. Basically making it unclear what exactly they will agree to. All to buy time and keep making it look like its Floyd holding up the fight.

              EDIT: Floyd has gone on record many times saying the same thing, it never changes. Theres been way too many different responses from Pacs side. How about they answer officially and together.
              Those were public statements. They came from the man himself. How much clearer can you get?
              So now the excuse is, it is not valid unless the whole team Pac comes out and call a big press conference to satisfy Floyd and his fans. Right. Make it appear that team Pac is very desperate to get to FMJ. What if FMJ ignores this. Would team Pac not look ******? Considering the type of people the Mayweathers are, it is not far-fetched that they will use this to add another demand. 60/40 or no fight.

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                #47
                Originally posted by tatangb45
                Where have you been? Pac has already made a public statement accepting Floyd's demands. Actually, twice on record. Do you want him to keep on repeating himself to your satisfaction?
                haha get real dude. You act as if it was Floyd who walked away from the original negotiations. And once again I'm hoping you are not referring to that YouTube interview of Manny stuttering, sorry man that is not agreeing to Floyd's terms. Agreeing would have been signing the contract when it was offered.

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                • Chopper417
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by tatangb45
                  Those were public statements. They came from the man himself. How much clearer can you get?
                  So now the excuse is, it is not valid unless the whole team Pac comes out and call a big press conference to satisfy Floyd and his fans. Right. Make it appear that team Pac is very desperate to get to FMJ. What if FMJ ignores this. Would team Pac not look ******? Considering the type of people the Mayweathers are, it is not far-fetched that they will use this to add another demand. 60/40 or no fight.
                  Sing the contract when it was presented. Not sure how this is so difficult for you to understand.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Chopper417
                    Sing the contract when it was presented. Not sure how this is so difficult for you to understand.
                    You keep going back to 2009. That is no longer relevant to the discussion. So many things have happened after that. Plus you keep confusing proposals with contract. There was no contract in 2009, only proposals from both sides. They could not agree with one particular stipulation, thus the stalemate.
                    Go back to the events of 2009 and read carefully and slowly. Hopefully then, you will comeback more enlightened.

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                    • Chopper417
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by tatangb45
                      You keep going back to 2009. That is no longer relevant to the discussion. So many things have happened after that. Plus you keep confusing proposals with contract. There was no contract in 2009, only proposals from both sides. They could not agree with one particular stipulation, thus the stalemate.
                      Go back to the events of 2009 and read carefully and slowly. Hopefully then, you will comeback more enlightened.
                      Mayweather signed the contract to fight Pac, true or false?

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