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  • Medved
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    #31
    Fact: The only person accusing Pacq of cheating is Floyd, which he has NO PROOF, just useless allegations
    Fact: Pacq has never been found gulty of using anything illegal.
    Fact: Floyds testing wasnt "random" and it wasnt olympic style
    Fact: Floyd has never been tested during his "vacation" giving him perfect opportunity to cheat
    Fact: Even if you wanted to, cycling your steroids doesnt take a month or two before a fight, you need long downtime unless you want to be caught by the commision before or after the fight
    Fact: Only Pacq has been fighting constantly for the last 5 years with 2-3 fights, Floyd has been on "vacation" doing WHO KNOWS WHAT?

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    • tatangb45
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      #32
      Originally posted by -Johannes-
      No he means that Pacquiao never claimed to be scared of needles. Arum did. That's just a baseless rumor and not even an opinion or fact.
      Wrong. Your assertion is false. It came from Ellerbe, not Arum. Again, another attempt to distort history.
      From a NY Times report dated DEc. 23 2009;
      Pac's camp said he had a problem with giving blood.
      Ellerbe then wondered why Pac had tattoos if he has an aversion to needles.
      Arum said the issue was with blood, not needles.

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      • ALG United
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        #33
        Originally posted by BoZz
        THIS IS FACT,MANNY SAID IT MAKES HIM WEAK..COMING OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH.

        This is a much recent fact coming from Manny's own mouth...


        Manny already agreed to OSDT, listen to him at the 2:15 mark, this interview was done before the Margarito fight, and Koncs is just a waterboy don't listen to anything that he says...



        And just much more recently, Arum corraborated with what has Manny said...


        Bob Arum said it at 1:50 mark, the drug tests may it be urine, blood and random is NO LONGER AN ISSUE….

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        • brick wall
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          #34
          same ****, different day...*****s trying to outwit *******s and vice versa. *****s got owned...*******s got owned...it's like a battle of ******s. at the end of the day both are still ******s...it doesn't matter who wins.

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          • ALG United
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            #35
            Originally posted by BoZz
            Manny didn't say he was scared of needles he said he doesn't want the test on the day of the fight and he blamed his loss to morales on the blood test on the video i posted above but after the morales fight he blamed the loss on his gloves and shoes..this man is such a liar.
            Your the one who lied, claiming Manny said in his own mouth that he is afraid of needles then when you realized you got owned by your own link you backtrack... What a ******EST of all the ****** *****S... haha

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              #36
              Originally posted by Medved
              Fact: The only person accusing Pacq of cheating is Floyd, which he has NO PROOF, just useless allegations
              Fact: Pacq has never been found gulty of using anything illegal.
              Fact: Floyds testing wasnt "random" and it wasnt olympic style
              Fact: Floyd has never been tested during his "vacation" giving him perfect opportunity to cheat
              Fact: Even if you wanted to, cycling your steroids doesnt take a month or two before a fight, you need long downtime unless you want to be caught by the commision before or after the fight
              Fact: Only Pacq has been fighting constantly for the last 5 years with 2-3 fights, Floyd has been on "vacation" doing WHO KNOWS WHAT?
              The rumors of pac bring on something started when Ariza came around. The mayweathers just brought it to public eye.

              Shane was never guilty of cheating until he admitted it nor tested positive

              Floyd and shines testing was ost and random you dumb****. Usada determined when theyd stop testing, not the fighters

              Everything else you said was *******ed. You post got bodied, dumbass

              Pacroid won't even do ost for a few weeks so stop acting like he'd want to test for a year.

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              • PacFansAreBakla
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                #37
                Originally posted by Medved
                Fact: Floyds testing wasnt "random" and it wasnt olympic style
                Fact: Floyd has never been tested during his "vacation" giving him perfect opportunity to cheat
                Floyds testing was indeed random. That is fact. Articles can be posted to back that up.

                Do you know the difference between olympic testing, and olympic STYLE testing. The word style isnt thrown in for flair. Its not like the buttons and **** applebees makes your dumbass wear at work tard. It actually means something.

                Do you have anything to back up your claim that he hasnt been being tested? You dont.

                Now go sit down. Thanks.

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                • THE REED
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Vegan102
                  the idea of random is you don't know when it is. its not random if you have a window of any kind.
                  You can have random testing, when you have no idea when it will be... all the way up until a week before the fight.

                  You're arguing a cut off... I'm arguing the initial argument, which is random.

                  You're not going to load up on EPO or HGH DURING fight week, you're not even training hard during fight week... everything is tapering down, and you are doing calithetics, and light workouts just to keep your body active.

                  A 2 week cutoff I don't like, because the week before fight week, you are peaking and training your hardest... but a cut off during fight week is absolutely fine.

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                  • tatangb45
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Chopper417
                    No he didn't dude, and please don't post that ridiculous YouTube video of Manny stuttering like an idiot mumbling he would take the test. He had an opportunity to take the test and he decided to fight Clottey instead. I honestly cannot fathum how you can take that video and turn it into "Manny has agreed to ALL testing" given what has happened. If Floyd came out and said in a youtube video that he was no longer requiring testing for the fight I wouldn't believe him for one second, until the papers are signed Manny DID NOT EVER agree to fully random testing, that is FACT.
                    If Floyd said in a you tube video that he no longer requires OSDT and then denies or backtracks from that statement, then it becomes obvious to the world who is scared to make the fight. Right? ...But he has not done that, so that is irrelevant.
                    Pac is on record, both on video and in an interview posted sometime around the Margo fight that he is now accepting FMJ's demand, and even mockingly adding, "even in between rounds if that is what he wants". For anyone who really wants this fight to happen, a simple and direct response would be to call the bluff. Simply ask Pac to submit a proposal with that stipulation added and he will sign it. If Pac backtracks, then we will know exactly who is to blame. If Pac sends one, then we have a fight. Simple.

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                    • Chopper417
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by tatangb45
                      If Floyd said in a you tube video that he no longer requires OSDT and then denies or backtracks from that statement, then it becomes obvious to the world who is scared to make the fight. Right? ...But he has not done that, so that is irrelevant.
                      Pac is on record, both on video and in an interview posted sometime around the Margo fight that he is now accepting FMJ's demand, and even mockingly adding, "even in between rounds if that is what he wants". For anyone who really wants this fight to happen, a simple and direct response would be to call the bluff. Simply ask Pac to submit a proposal with that stipulation added and he will sign it. If Pac backtracks, then we will know exactly who is to blame. If Pac sends one, then we have a fight. Simple.
                      I honestly don't understand your point bro. Manny had the opportunity to agree to the testing and didn't, is that incorrect?

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