Question about the PED accusations against Pacquiao...

[Ravishing]

But Rav, you quickly assumed he was basing it off of Pacquiao not taking the drug test. So no offense, but why would anyone waste their time with you?

Because in the end you're going to be biased towards Floyd, and that's fine, that's what fans do. He blatantly told me "I have my su****ions". What else is he talking about besides what we were initially talking about (Pacquiao cheating)? Do we really need to break things down easier?

[Ravishing]

reading isn't your strong-suit, nephew.

It is Tom, you're just trying to continue on a point you inevitably know you can't prove. So what's the point? I mean again, prove me wrong.

[The Big Dunn]

I have no problem with better testing. My issue is with people claiming Pacquiao's cheating w/out having proof. I've criticized Manny for not testing initially, but never once did I suspect he was cheating more both guys egos getting in the way. If you support Floyd, you'll believe him. If you support Pacquiao you'll believe him. To me, all that matters is the fight.

I dont think Manny is dirty either. But his avoidance of OST is questionable. Regarding proof, there is only one way to get proof. How can one obtain proof 1st? Isn't the fact that that Shane Mosley, James Toney and several other elite fighters have tested positive enough for ALL fighters to take more stringent tests like they do in every major sport?

[Walt Liquor]

people gonna ride either floyd or pac's nuts hard no matter the circumstances. My issue is floyd's never tested anyone prior to pacquiao, yet he's such a "beatable" guy. Steroids / hgh don't win you fights as been proven in the past. Hell, it would be a bigger look if floyd beat pacquiao and he came up positive anyway, just like vargas did with oscar. It's lame already. People argue everyday about the same **** like anything has changed. They're not fighting and their fans are going to side with their fighter. The end.

and its both sides fault

[Doctor_Tenma]

Because in the end you're going to be biased towards Floyd, and that's fine, that's what fans do. He blatantly told me "I have my su****ions". What else is he talking about besides what we were initially talking about (Pacquiao cheating)? Do we really need to break things down easier?

It's like in your book Manny never tried to weasel his way around the drug testing procedure. It's already su****ious enough that he would decline such a fight over drug testing, but picking out the dates, and the amount of times he wanted to be blood tested is highly su****ious. I couldn't give two shits about who I'm rolling with, what's real is real.

[maguirre]

videos that say pacman is agreeing to the tests are all over the place. there was also a separate interview of pacman saying he will even take the test after the sixth round.

*******s need to stop defending this sh.t. it's been a non-issue a long time ago already. *****s of course will forever pretend that it is still an issue. you can't blame them. they are *****s. until floyd decides to fight pac you don't expect *****s to stop bringing up this ped issue. i understand.

Exactly. You don't expect *****s to accept things without saving their faces. They're human beings. They have pride. *******s need to understand.

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[p4p-champ]

Not at all, I believe you're hoping for a scandal and would endorse it. Unfortunately for you, there hasn't been a smoking gun for Pacquiao, unless you call that "Phillippino sparring partner" the bearer of truth. The benefit I have is I don't side with either fighter. But when questions such as "Can you provide proof Pacquiao's cheating?" it turns into a circus show because inevitably you can't answer that question with "YES".

I'm not hoping for anything other than the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight happening. However, I do believe that better testing is clearly a necessity in all sports but especially a contact sport like boxing. The BALCO scandal has already proven without a doubt. Any athlete can be suspect without a smoking gun in this day and age, it would seem even more so with the current commission testing in boxing.

[Ravishing]

I dont think Manny is dirty either. But his avoidance of OST is questionable. Regarding proof, there is only one way to get proof. How can one obtain proof 1st? Isn't the fact that that Shane Mosley, James Toney and several other elite fighters have tested positive enough for ALL fighters to take more stringent tests like they do in every major sport?

I agree with the better testing, and as far as what I read several times Pac's team said if NSAC demanded blood testing, there would be no problem we're on board (but obviously, people threw that down). That's why I always viewed this as an ego thing being both guys without one another can make money. It just sucks as Boxing fans we didn't get to see that fight. But then we hear Pac agreed to testing the 2nd time around, but Floyd fans think he's lying, or Arum is lying, or Roger is lying. In the end, it just comes down to what you inevitably believe. In relation to Mosley and Toney, Pacquiao is constantly surrounded by people and media to where if he was taking something, it's out there now. But the arguments don't change and probably won't until that fight ever happens. So as I always say, unless you have solid proof Pac is on something, it's all hearsay.

[The Big Dunn]

videos that say pacman is agreeing to the tests are all over the place. there was also a separate interview of pacman saying he will even take the test after the sixth round.

*******s need to stop defending this sh.t. it's been a non-issue a long time ago already. *****s of course will forever pretend that it is still an issue. you can't blame them. they are *****s. until floyd decides to fight pac you don't expect *****s to stop bringing up this ped issue. i understand.

It is difficult to defend a congressman form refusing to submit to the gold standard of testing as a precursor to the richest fight in history. Who would you expect to behave like this, the thug gangsta or the congressman?

[Ravishing]

It's like in your book Manny never tried to weasel his way around the drug testing procedure. It's already su****ious enough that he would decline such a fight over drug testing, but picking out the dates, and the amount of times he wanted to be blood tested is highly su****ious. I couldn't give two shits about who I'm rolling with, what's real is real.

I already stated Pacquiao should've taken the tests in the 1st place. But I'm not suspecting the guy of taking PEDs because I'm not biased towards Floyd, whom believe Pacquiao is cheating oof GP. I don't favor either guy, but I'm not going to accuse Pac if you have no evidence. It's like the Cotto fans who still cry today about Margarito beating him. What proof do you have that he cheated in that fight?