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  • Ray*
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    #21
    I have ZERO problem with a boxers, fighter or most contact sport asking for their opponents and themselves to be tested, I have NO problem if an athlete says NO for whatever reason but i do have a problem with the way they go about it, I do have a problem with anyone trying to make it a negative thing when its not, No matter how you slice and dice it better testing oppose to what we get now in boxing is great for the sport....NO matter how Mayweather asked for it, He request it just like Pacquiao request all his catchweight fights through the contract and his opponents not through the commission.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Ravishing
      What proof do you have Pacquiao's cheating?
      There wasn't any proof Mosley was cheating either, until he confessed. The year is 2011, PEDs have become more advanced all over the world but the commission is still performing the same cheap basic tests.
      Last edited by p4p-champ; 06-22-2011, 09:13 AM.

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      • J-A-D-AKISS
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        #23
        Originally posted by Ravishing
        What proof do you have Pacquiao's cheating?
        read again nephew. you even highlighted what i said.

        "you dudes want floyd to fight a possibly juiced up Manny"

        key word being "possibly".

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          #24
          Originally posted by J-A-D-AKISS
          read again nephew. you even highlighted what i said.

          "you dudes want floyd to fight a possibly juiced up Manny"

          key word being "possibly".
          But you're basing it on the notion of what? That Pacquiao didn't take the test right?

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            #25
            Originally posted by p4p-champ
            There wasn't any proof Mosley was cheating either, until he confessed. The year is 2011, PEDs have become more advanced all over the world but the commission is still performing the same cheap basic tests.
            What actually got Mosley to confess in the 1st place? that he felt bad? Mosley was under su****ion and he inevitably confessed. Find me Pac's smoking gun and you got yourself a case.

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              #26
              Originally posted by MindHeist
              I know this has been said before but...

              If the boxing commissions and the powers that be don't require OSDT then why is there an entire cult of people backing Floyd on his demands?
              I'm sure you meant to say "Why isn't there", even if, who gives a damn? Your not saying much here.

              Originally posted by MindHeist
              Boxers box. Trainers train. Commissions run ****. The end.

              Does it make sense to go out of your way to satisfy the wants of your opponent when its not mandatory?
              Depends on whats being demanded, since it's obvious we're talking about drug testing, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Big deal...

              Originally posted by MindHeist
              Sure people can point to the "excuses" about needles and Manny's alleged head growth but Pacquiao's camp can make up as many excuses as they want as for reasons why not to take the tests because they don't have to.
              Good, so people shouldn't bitch and moan when I think he's cheating. Bold pretty much proves your disgustingly attached to Pacquiao, and if Manny were ever strapped up in front you, you'd most likely **** him.

              Originally posted by MindHeist
              Also, flip the coin.

              If Pacquiao's camp for some reason pulled this on Floyd and demanded OSDT from him out of the blue do you think Floyd would comply? No, for the sake of going against the grain and not wanting to ease the mind of his opponent Floyd would argue the same.
              Floyd would say no? How you figure? . Talk about an obvious agenda.

              Originally posted by MindHeist
              He would say, "I've always tested clean and I take the tests required by the commission, lifestyle flashy".
              Again, making assumptions to fit your agenda.

              Originally posted by MindHeist
              The argument coming from the Mayweather camp and his cult following is a bit ridiculous.

              Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

              Who is anyone to say that you literally CAN'T peak in your later years?

              But people take the word of Roger or Floyd Sr. as gospel and that's that.

              Hardly anyone listens to Roger and Floyd Sr. It's sad that you think that.

              Originally posted by MindHeist
              Kind of sad what boxing has come to really.
              Yeah, shitty fans as yourself.

              Originally posted by MindHeist
              People who fight for a living avoiding opponents because their daddy got it in their head that they might lose their undefeated streak to a "cheater".

              Boo on that.
              Cheaters who won't even put their syringe away, not even for the biggest fight ever. Sad sad day for boxing.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Ravishing
                But you're basing it on the notion of what? That Pacquiao didn't take the test right?
                i base it on what i base it on and i don't have to share why. just know i know a lil bit and have my su****ions.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Ravishing
                  What actually got Mosley to confess in the 1st place? that he felt bad? Mosley was under su****ion and he inevitably confessed. Find me Pac's smoking gun and you got yourself a case.
                  Oh I see, what we need here then is another PED scandal to be able to force Manny to take more advanced testing. Because without it, everyone is 100% clean according the ancient testing methods of the commission. If it wasn't for the BALCO blow up, Mosley would still be cheating until now and Barry Bonds would have broke the 100home-run mark.

                  Lets all pretend that never happened because the Commission has the best testing standards and Manny won't need to give any blood, poor little guy.
                  Last edited by p4p-champ; 06-22-2011, 09:28 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MindHeist
                    I understand every fighter has a right to fight someone who is clean.

                    That's obvious.

                    But its NOT required by the commissions.

                    The end.

                    Would YOU go out of YOUR way to ease the mind of your opponent?

                    No, you wouldn't.

                    Floyd needs to talk to the commissions then, not team Pacquiao.

                    Team Pacquiao shouldn't budge on the OSDT until its mandatory.

                    Pacquiao doesn't need Floyd. His legacy is one of greatness.

                    Floyd on the other hand will go down with a lot of ? on his resume.

                    Especially in regards to his ducking of opponents.
                    You truly reek of gayness. Ease the mind of your opponent? It's a drug test.

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                    • Ravishing
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by J-A-D-AKISS
                      i base it on what i base it on and i don't have to share why. just know i know a lil bit and have my su****ions.
                      Well at least you admitted you believe Pacquiao is cheating. You're just under the burden of having no proof. But hey, if you can provide a smoking gun for Pacquiao's cheating ways, be my guest. I'd actually like to see what Pacquiao is really on.

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