Question about the PED accusations against Pacquiao...

[The Big Dunn]

People gonna ride either Floyd or Pac's nuts hard no matter the circumstances. My issue is Floyd's never tested anyone prior to Pacquiao, yet he's such a "beatable" guy. Steroids / HGH don't win you fights as been proven in the past. Hell, it would be a bigger look if Floyd beat Pacquiao and he came up positive anyway, just like Vargas did with Oscar. It's lame already. People argue everyday about the same **** like anything has changed. They're not fighting and their fans are going to side with their fighter. The end.

Respectfully, if Manny were less popular I believe the American media would have questioned his success much more.There was a reason tha McGwire and Clemens didn't catch nearly as much heat as Bonds did.

[J-A-D-AKISS]

Boxers also get hit in the head for a living, The have the right to know that their opponent is clean if they want to, there is no negative about better testing for any fight or any competitive sport, Anyone against that is just an idiot..

the thread should be over again after this

[J-A-D-AKISS]

we have a fighter wanting better testing and we have boxing 'fans' crying and complaining. where they do that at nephew?

[MindHeist]

I understand every fighter has a right to fight someone who is clean.

That's obvious.

But its NOT required by the commissions.

The end.

Would YOU go out of YOUR way to ease the mind of your opponent?

No, you wouldn't.

Floyd needs to talk to the commissions then, not team Pacquiao.

Team Pacquiao shouldn't budge on the OSDT until its mandatory.

Pacquiao doesn't need Floyd. His legacy is one of greatness.

Floyd on the other hand will go down with a lot of ? on his resume.

Especially in regards to his ducking of opponents.

[The Big Dunn]

I understand every fighter has a right to fight someone who is clean.

That's obvious.

But its NOT required by the commissions.

The end.

Would YOU go out of YOUR way to ease the mind of your opponent?

No, you wouldn't.

Floyd needs to talk to the commissions then, not team Pacquiao.

Team Pacquiao shouldn't budge on the OSDT until its mandatory.

Pacquiao doesn't need Floyd. His legacy is one of greatness.

Floyd on the other hand will go down with a lot of ? on his resume.

Especially in regards to his ducking of opponents.

But the testing floyd requested, WHICH BOTH FIGHTERS WILL TAKE, makes sure BOTH fighters are not cheating. How can you possibly disgree with that?

Why would you as a fan want Manny to fight without OST? What are you afraid the tests will reveal about MAnny?

[J-A-D-AKISS]

lol. just stop nephew. you can tell you're a young kid man.

[J-A-D-AKISS]

i'm not sure this kid even knows what he's arguing

[p4p-champ]

Does it make sense to go out of your way to satisfy the wants of your opponent when its not mandatory?

FYI, requesting things outside of the commission has been done since the beginning of time. Its up to the opponent to accept or deny such requests.

The question then becomes, how reasonable is the request?

[Ravishing]

who wants to compete against someone who is cheating? you dudes want floyd to fight a possibly juiced up Manny shows how high you regard. wake up, nephew. your argument is so plain and has been debunked on here before. just move on.

What proof do you have Pacquiao's cheating?

[CubanGuyNYC]

I know this has been said before but...

If the boxing commissions and the powers that be don't require OSDT then why is there an entire cult of people backing Floyd on his demands?

Boxers box. Trainers train. Commissions run ****. The end.

Does it make sense to go out of your way to satisfy the wants of your opponent when its not mandatory?

Sure people can point to the "excuses" about needles and Manny's alleged head growth but Pacquiao's camp can make up as many excuses as they want as for reasons why not to take the tests because they don't have to.

Also, flip the coin.

If Pacquiao's camp for some reason pulled this on Floyd and demanded OSDT from him out of the blue do you think Floyd would comply? No, for the sake of going against the grain and not wanting to ease the mind of his opponent Floyd would argue the same.

He would say, "I've always tested clean and I take the tests required by the commission, lifestyle flashy".

The argument coming from the Mayweather camp and his cult following is a bit ridiculous.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Who is anyone to say that you literally CAN'T peak in your later years?

But people take the word of Roger or Floyd Sr. as gospel and that's that.

Kind of sad what boxing has come to really.

People who fight for a living avoiding opponents because their daddy got it in their head that they might lose their undefeated streak to a "cheater".

Boo on that.

Many people back Mayweather's demands quite simply because they want to see the fight. I agree, Pacquiao doesn't have to do anything that isn't required of him by the "powers that be." So we have a dilemma: Does Manny take the tests and make the most anticipated fight in recent memory happen? Or does he stick to his principles, indeed his rights, and leave the fans wanting?

We're at an unfortunate stage in sports history, one that calls into question the performance of any unusually successful athlete. I'm not saying that Pacquiao is using PEDs, but it's far from unreasonable to believe so. It would be naive to overlook the obvious proliferation of PEDs in sports today.

Manny is young enough where his age-related performance doesn't raise eyebrows, but athletes are subject to the same natural forces as everyone else. If an athlete has performed on a high level deep into his career, then makes an unprecedented surge in his later years, questions will (and should) be asked.