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  • Uturn
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    #121
    Originally posted by StrangerInTown
    The question is simple.
    Will Haye show up for the paynight or will he come to win?

    I'm betting that he displays a tentative nature for three stanzas and then connects.
    A unification fight is enough to make anyone tempted to win. Haye won't go down without a fight.

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    • StrangerInTown
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      #122
      The Racket Squad: The Ademek Factor Erased

      Two guys with suspect whiskers.
      David is amusing and virtually untested and the other is a one trick pony during these last few years.
      His entire game is that great, annoying jab.

      HBO began to resent the absence of any real competition and after the Arreola beating told each brother that guys like Eddie Chambers were not prime time players.

      But each Klitchko calls their own shots and are the best of a fairly horrible heavyweight lot.
      Ademek is truthfully the best 200 plus man out there after the Russians.

      Yet, Haye trash talked his way into this possible 'fight.'
      The odds against him are actually not justified given the KO's Vlad has endured.

      At the end of the day I think Haye's woofing is going to pay off.
      Just a feeling.
      Still, my gut tells me that Tomas is the toughest and most gifted heavy out there right now.

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      • hweightblogger
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        #123
        Originally posted by ChopperRead
        From 2008

        Boxing*nsider.com: How are things going with your new guy Wladimir Klitschko?

        Freddie Roach: “Pretty good. I’ve been working with him since his brother came here. He definitely has a lot of tools. My biggest thing with Wladimir is he needs work on his balance.”
        That interview is from 2003 right before the Moli fight.

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          #124
          Originally posted by StrangerInTown
          Two guys with suspect whiskers.
          David is amusing and virtually untested and the other is a one trick pony during these last few years.
          His entire game is that great, annoying jab.

          HBO began to resent the absence of any real competition and after the Arreola beating told each brother that guys like Eddie Chambers were not prime time players.

          But each Klitchko calls their own shots and are the best of a fairly horrible heavyweight lot.
          Ademek is truthfully the best 200 plus man out there after the Russians.

          Yet, Haye trash talked his way into this possible 'fight.'
          The odds against him are actually not justified given the KO's Vlad has endured.

          At the end of the day I think Haye's woofing is going to pay off.
          Just a feeling.
          Still, my gut tells me that Tomas is the toughest and most gifted heavy out there right now.
          You must have missed his right hand killer, and his KO brand quick left hook.

          And, just to correct you, klitschko has never been counted out, they were TKO's each under and he was on his feet dubious circumstances. For instance, the first one was actually a "retirement" against Purrity, caused by Klitschko's corner not allowing him to come out for-I think- the 1th or 12th rd when he had beaten Purrity all over the ring and I think, won every rd. He was only 21-22 years old, and this was his 25th fight in his 24th month as a pro. He weighed in at only 225. In the other 2 fights, certain things occurred which were not on a level field.

          His reputation for a weak chin is totally undeserved as his 1st fight against Sam Peter shows. A Boxrec Win-Loss report doesn't tell anything about the REAL details of either the wins or losses. In Klitschko's case, there was a LOT more to each TKO.

          It was the Sanders fight which first caught my interest about the Klitschkos.

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            #125
            Originally posted by edgarg
            You must have missed his right hand killer, and his KO brand quick left hook.

            And, just to correct you, klitschko has never been counted out, they were TKO's each under and he was on his feet dubious circumstances. For instance, the first one was actually a "retirement" against Purrity, caused by Klitschko's corner not allowing him to come out for-I think- the 1th or 12th rd when he had beaten Purrity all over the ring and I think, won every rd. He was only 21-22 years old, and this was his 25th fight in his 24th month as a pro. He weighed in at only 225. In the other 2 fights, certain things occurred which were not on a level field.

            His reputation for a weak chin is totally undeserved as his 1st fight against Sam Peter shows. A Boxrec Win-Loss report doesn't tell anything about the REAL details of either the wins or losses. In Klitschko's case, there was a LOT more to each TKO.

            It was the Sanders fight which first caught my interest about the Klitschkos.
            Sorry about the 'garbling" my computer has a bad habit of jumping around and I have a hell of a job trying to straighten sentences out. I miss a couple now and then.

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            • edgarg
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              #126
              Originally posted by ChopperRead
              I hear you, but it is what it is. I think you'll find that in two weeks, when Haye and his ilk are gone, much of what is bothering you will subside.
              Lets hope so, I'd really like to be able to switch on and know that I won't have to wade through the usual pile of sludge.

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              • ChopperRead
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                #127
                Originally posted by hweightblogger
                That interview is from 2003 right before the Moli fight.
                Thanks. Thought 2008 seemed wrong, but that's the date the site had on it.

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                • Rick Grimes
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                  #128
                  Klitschko fans got burned.

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                  • edgarg
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by lfc19titles
                    thats the thing, one think said against the klits, we have people like you posting 20 lines of excuses for them

                    oh lewis hit vitali with an illegal punch

                    oh vitali only trained 2 weeks for the fight

                    oh lewis was on the verge of being k0d

                    oh wlad has some bad food before his ko losses

                    its always excuses, then you try to take the high round

                    i hope for the sake of boxing, when yes when haye finishes wlad, people like you and other klit fans leave boxing forever and go back into chess
                    I actually said NONE of those things ever, except that Lewis was on the road to a KO loss, when the fight was ******ly, and for the wrong reason, stopped by a doctor who himself, after facing criticism, gave at leasy 3 excuses that know fo for his actions.

                    You and I already have a 3 mill bet on the Klitschko-Haye fight, if you'd like to increase it to 10 mill I'm OK with that. You can PM me and we can keep things on a friendly basis. As I think I told you, this is the first fight I have ever bet on, on ths site, and in fact have only bet on a fight one in my life, on the Sam-Peter W Klitschko 1st fight, where I won a largish amount.

                    It was an obvious choice, with little chance of loss, and, by the way, this fight showed that Klitschko has a GOOD chin, as I've been saying all the time.

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                    • edgarg
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by edgarg
                      Lets hope so, I'd really like to be able to switch on and know that I won't have to wade through the usual pile of sludge.
                      CHOPPER- It'll be like trying to clean out a septic tank.

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