Comments Thread For: Cotto-Margarito Rematch: December 3 in NY, Says Arum

[Las Vegas,]

... BWAHAHAHA!!!!! You're telling me buckling over from a body shot is actually a good thing?

The **** are you talking about? Body shots are ****ing vicious. The fact that he didn't go down isn't a bad thing. His body isn't garbage you moron. Besides, why are you even talking about Cotto and body shots. He doesn't throw body shots against fighters who put pressure on him, he's shown this in the past. The only time he throws body shots is when he's in control of the fight. He doesn't do it fighting backwards.

[TOBYLEE1]

Thanks to Arum Margo is going to get another payday and it is the only fight that will give him such a payday.

If Steward is smart he will train Cotto to start at the body which Margo has shown were he gets really hurt as late and then go to the top cause more than likely they are going to train to keep his hands up to protect that eye.

Margo body has taken so much damage over the years and Garcia should be looking to protect his fighter this time around.

[Control-]

I think Cotto takes it by decision, but it may well end looking like a less entertaining version of their first fight due to both being worse now than they were 3 years ago.

[Las Vegas,]

Thanks to Arum Margo is going to get another payday and it is the only fight that will give him such a payday.

If Steward is smart he will train Cotto to start at the body which Margo has shown were he gets really hurt as late and then go to the top cause more than likely they are going to train to keep his hands up to protect that eye.

Margo body has taken so much damage over the years and Garcia should be looking to protect his fighter this time around.

No. If Steward was smart he'd teach Cotto how to clinch properly. It's that simple. If Cotto can clinch every time Margarito gets a rally going, he can get him out of there because Margarito doesn't just put pressure on you instantly, he has to get his cycle going and that takes a while and that gives Cotto chances to attack Margarito.

Mosley showed the perfect blue print on how to beat Margarito. Merely clinching. That's ALL he needs.

[freedom213]

No. If Steward was smart he'd teach Cotto how to clinch properly. It's that simple. If Cotto can clinch every time Margarito gets a rally going, he can get him out of there because Margarito doesn't just put pressure on you instantly, he has to get his cycle going and that takes a while and that gives Cotto chances to attack Margarito.

Mosley showed the perfect blue print on how to beat Margarito. Merely clinching. That's ALL he needs.

good post, clinching has to be part of the gameplan and should be a skill with any fighter, especially one whose only shot of winning comes with his inside fight game. This will be an entertaining fight and one that I see Cotto winning down the stretch via UD. He may be able to put Margarito down with body shots but it will be a difficult to KO him unless Margarito's face unravels.

Tony has three things going against him in this fight:

Inactivity- he has shown anytime he takes time off between fights he looks rusty as hell and slow.

The damage he took against Pac physically this could become an issue and could be a issue regrdless if his vision is impaired. Doctors depend on honest feedback from their patients when assessing these types of injury. I am curios if Margarito would tell them if he was having issues?

The psychological ghosts from the beating he took and speculation/implications of what could happen if his eye is re-injured.

If Margarito wins this fight I will be very impressed cause to me this should be a slam dunk for Cotto.

[El Talegon]

I dont think anyone thinks Cotto is God. However I do beleive that many Cotto fans feel he was cheated in the first fight. i think we have the right to beleive that considering Margarito got busted in his very next fight. ..So while I do beleive they are both past their primes, im glad this fight is being made so we can see if the outcome is the same. .. Im one of the few Cotto fans, that will admit I beleive Margarito wins regardless of plaster wraps, because styles make fights and Cotto's ******nite is a preasure fighter, with good stamina, and a granite chin. But we will see what happens.

I hear u. this is a rematch i would luv to see for the reasons u posted up. To clear any doubt that margo was cheating the first fight.. good follow up man

[Pullcounter]

what's there to criticize about this fight? it's a good fight.

[TintaBoricua]

The **** are you talking about? Body shots are ****ing vicious. The fact that he didn't go down isn't a bad thing. His body isn't garbage you moron. Besides, why are you even talking about Cotto and body shots. He doesn't throw body shots against fighters who put pressure on him, he's shown this in the past. The only time he throws body shots is when he's in control of the fight. He doesn't do it fighting backwards.

I distinctly remember showtime analysts (or was it HBO?) mentioning that when a fighter is known to have an iron chin, you might find yourself having an easier time going to the body.

They talked about this in the rematch between Librado Andrade vs. Lucian Bute. Andrade showed that he had a remarkable chin and he kept coming and coming. After that first knockdown that he suffered by rushing in, he continued to pressure Bute and ate a flush uppercut to the body and it took all the air right out of him. The fight was over.

Margarito has shown time and time again that he is TOUGH, absolutely no question about that. But to be fair, he has been shown to be visibly hurt to the body early in his fights with Pacquiao and Mosley. He took a straight right to the body from Mosley in the first round that stunned him and Mosley pounced on him but then he ducked and they both got into a clinch, I believe. Margarito was visibly hurt, though.

He also got hurt in the fourth against Pacquiao with a left hook to the body where he visibly cowered and sort of lost his footing and, once again, Pacquiao pounced on him and went to the head when Margarito dropped his hands not wanting to leave himself open to the body.

I commend him for being tough but I DO believe he can't take punches to the body as well. What I cannot complain about is his chin, heart, and recuperative abilities. Margarito comes away as being the type of guy that you will never see glassy-eyed after a knockdown (or rarely do).

He was visibly dazed after his first knockdown by Mosley, he went back to his corner absolutely stunned, but he had to take BOMB after BOMB after BOMB after BOMB from Mosley before finally dropping.

So, in regards to his body, I disagree with you. I think Margarito is more vulnerable to the body than the head.

I DO agree with you, however, that Cotto does not go to the body as much against pressure fighters since he tends to box. He's gone to the body while trying to counter Pac's in-and-out aggression and had some success (during the first two rounds), but once Pacquiao started landing those combinations, he threw out everything out of the window and decided to trade with him.

[AddiX]

Thisnis one of those fights where the fighters aren't in there prime and the actual fight will probably be better because of it.

I'll be at this for sure.

[Beater_of_ass]

The **** are you talking about? Body shots are ****ing vicious. The fact that he didn't go down isn't a bad thing. His body isn't garbage you moron. Besides, why are you even talking about Cotto and body shots. He doesn't throw body shots against fighters who put pressure on him, he's shown this in the past. The only time he throws body shots is when he's in control of the fight. He doesn't do it fighting backwards.

Marg got nearly DROPPED by a punch to a guy who weighed 20 pounds less then him, that IS a bad thing, especially when its the 4th round. Also, anyone saying he "applied" pressure as a positive thing is a complete idiot all he did was walk forward, he has to apply it effectively. Manny was going easy on him from the 9th round on and Margs still didn't do anything worth a **** and this is from a guy with fantastic stamina apparently.

Also you keep saying Cotto doesn't do this or that, which is PRECISELY the reason he hired Steward. It was to get Cotto to get him to stop doing things wrong and do them correctly, he clinched when necessary in the Mayorga bout, he slipped and rolled with punches something I've NEVER seen Cotto do. He also never got into one of his deep crouches or lean over at the waist as he did each time he was in the ropes with Margarito. I stated it before, Marg can not do anything to improve what he did in the first fight. All he did was pressure Cotto and throw a lot of punches and he still lost 6 rounds in the process. Cotto on the other hand did A LOT of things wrong and still had success, Margs only chance is if Garcia puts brass knuckles on Margs this time.