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    #111
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    Marg got nearly DROPPED by a punch to a guy who weighed 20 pounds less then him, that IS a bad thing, especially when its the 4th round. Also, anyone saying he "applied" pressure as a positive thing is a complete idiot all he did was walk forward, he has to apply it effectively. Manny was going easy on him from the 9th round on and Margs still didn't do anything worth a **** and this is from a guy with fantastic stamina apparently.

    Also you keep saying Cotto doesn't do this or that, which is PRECISELY the reason he hired Steward. It was to get Cotto to get him to stop doing things wrong and do them correctly, he clinched when necessary in the Mayorga bout, he slipped and rolled with punches something I've NEVER seen Cotto do. He also never got into one of his deep crouches or lean over at the waist as he did each time he was in the ropes with Margarito. I stated it before, Marg can not do anything to improve what he did in the first fight. All he did was pressure Cotto and throw a lot of punches and he still lost 6 rounds in the process. Cotto on the other hand did A LOT of things wrong and still had success, Margs only chance is if Garcia puts brass knuckles on Margs this time.
    It was a picture perfect left hook right to the liver. Oh and BTW, Please don't compare Pacquiao to Margarito. Pacquiao is CLEARLY the superior fighter,and Pacquiao is also CLEARLY the superior fighter to Cotto.

    Cotto fades if he's getting bullied. Cotto's style was, and still is to be a bully. If you stand up to him and give him pressure he fades. Also, Cotto hasn't improved on his defense either. He still leaves himself wide open up in the middle where Margarito caught him MULTIPLE times with VICIOUS uppercuts.

    All Steward has to do is teach Cotto how to clinch, and he can get him out of there. If Steward doesn't teach Cotto how to clinch properly the chances of him winning this fight are low. BTW, he lost those first 6 rounds because Margarito was and still is a slow starter.

    You'll see what I mean December 3rd. The only time I've ever been this confident in a prediction was Trinidad-Mayorga, when I picked Trinidad to win by TKO...and well we all saw what happened there, oh the irony how it all ended with a left hook to the body.

    Also, @TintaBoricua I agree with you, his chin is better than his body, but at the same time though it doesn't mean his body is trash because he got hit with great shots from Pacquiao and Mosley. I do agree with you though. The thing is, I don't think Cotto will go to the body, especially if he's fighting backwards.

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    • RSBonos
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      #112
      I'm gonna try to make the trip for this fight.

      Arguably most anticipated fight for me in 2011.

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      • Mr. Fantastic
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        #113
        Originally posted by [KLTP]
        It was a picture perfect left hook right to the liver. Oh and BTW, Please don't compare Pacquiao to Margarito. Pacquiao is CLEARLY the superior fighter,and Pacquiao is also CLEARLY the superior fighter to Cotto.

        Cotto fades if he's getting bullied. Cotto's style was, and still is to be a bully. If you stand up to him and give him pressure he fades. Also, Cotto hasn't improved on his defense either. He still leaves himself wide open up in the middle where Margarito caught him MULTIPLE times with VICIOUS uppercuts.

        All Steward has to do is teach Cotto how to clinch, and he can get him out of there. If Steward doesn't teach Cotto how to clinch properly the chances of him winning this fight are low. BTW, he lost those first 6 rounds because Margarito was and still is a slow starter.

        You'll see what I mean December 3rd. The only time I've ever been this confident in a prediction was Trinidad-Mayorga, when I picked Trinidad to win by TKO...and well we all saw what happened there, oh the irony how it all ended with a left hook to the body.

        Also, @TintaBoricua I agree with you, his chin is better than his body, but at the same time though it doesn't mean his body is trash because he got hit with great shots from Pacquiao and Mosley. I do agree with you though. The thing is, I don't think Cotto will go to the body, especially if he's fighting backwards.
        You just straight killin them with true reason. It's not going to go through their thick skulls no matter how analytical you get, I've already tried that.

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        • Beater_of_ass
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          #114
          Originally posted by [KLTP]
          It was a picture perfect left hook right to the liver. Oh and BTW, Please don't compare Pacquiao to Margarito. Pacquiao is CLEARLY the superior fighter,and Pacquiao is also CLEARLY the superior fighter to Cotto.

          Cotto fades if he's getting bullied. Cotto's style was, and still is to be a bully. If you stand up to him and give him pressure he fades. Also, Cotto hasn't improved on his defense either. He still leaves himself wide open up in the middle where Margarito caught him MULTIPLE times with VICIOUS uppercuts.

          All Steward has to do is teach Cotto how to clinch, and he can get him out of there. If Steward doesn't teach Cotto how to clinch properly the chances of him winning this fight are low. BTW, he lost those first 6 rounds because Margarito was and still is a slow starter.

          You'll see what I mean December 3rd. The only time I've ever been this confident in a prediction was Trinidad-Mayorga, when I picked Trinidad to win by TKO...and well we all saw what happened there, oh the irony how it all ended with a left hook to the body.

          Also, @TintaBoricua I agree with you, his chin is better than his body, but at the same time though it doesn't mean his body is trash because he got hit with great shots from Pacquiao and Mosley. I do agree with you though. The thing is, I don't think Cotto will go to the body, especially if he's fighting backwards.
          I never compared Manny, Marg or Cotto except for the fact that Cotto is a better body puncher than Manny. Manny has a LOT of things on Cotto but body punching is not one of them. For someone being SO confident in a pick you make it seem quite easy that Cotto will win if he clinches, if you don't think a clinch is something that can be taught in eight weeks you're an idiot. I'll just end it at that, even if Cotto sits in the ropes, crouches down at the waist directly into Margs uppercuts, doesn't throw body punches and fights going backward the entire time if all he does is clinch and can still win imagine if he actually simply does all that same crap just half the time with Steward in his corner. Cotto wins with ease, he might get hit but Marg couldn't even hurt Manny except for a body shot which only slowed Manny down for about 15 seconds. This guy has, and always was garbage his best win was a dirty one come Dec. 4th I can't wait to see how many of don't show up.

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          • El Angel
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            #115
            I see Cotto outboxing him for 12 rounds this time around. The first fight he never planted his feet and dug in his power shots. He was trying so hard to not get hit by Margarito, he never established his power. He would throw quick flurries that looked good to the crowd, but he never planted and got good leverage. I do think Steward will teach him to do things he normally doesn't do, especially clinch. He needs to do that if and when Margarito gets him against the ropes. If he can do that, Margarito is far too slow and not as much power at 154 IMO to do to Cotto what he did last time. But it should be a war while it lasts.

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            • TOBYLEE1
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              #116
              Originally posted by [KLTP]
              No. If Steward was smart he'd teach Cotto how to clinch properly. It's that simple. If Cotto can clinch every time Margarito gets a rally going, he can get him out of there because Margarito doesn't just put pressure on you instantly, he has to get his cycle going and that takes a while and that gives Cotto chances to attack Margarito.

              Mosley showed the perfect blue print on how to beat Margarito. Merely clinching. That's ALL he needs.
              You are right on with the clinching but Cotto being so offensive minded you have to go with his strengths. But I do agree if he could learn how to clinch to disrupt the other guys momentum he would do much better in his fights

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              • Burning Phoenix
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                #117
                war cotto!!!!

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by [KLTP]
                  It was a picture perfect left hook right to the liver. Oh and BTW, Please don't compare Pacquiao to Margarito. Pacquiao is CLEARLY the superior fighter,and Pacquiao is also CLEARLY the superior fighter to Cotto.

                  Cotto fades if he's getting bullied. Cotto's style was, and still is to be a bully. If you stand up to him and give him pressure he fades. Also, Cotto hasn't improved on his defense either. He still leaves himself wide open up in the middle where Margarito caught him MULTIPLE times with VICIOUS uppercuts.

                  All Steward has to do is teach Cotto how to clinch, and he can get him out of there. If Steward doesn't teach Cotto how to clinch properly the chances of him winning this fight are low. BTW, he lost those first 6 rounds because Margarito was and still is a slow starter.

                  You'll see what I mean December 3rd. The only time I've ever been this confident in a prediction was Trinidad-Mayorga, when I picked Trinidad to win by TKO...and well we all saw what happened there, oh the irony how it all ended with a left hook to the body.

                  Also, @TintaBoricua I agree with you, his chin is better than his body, but at the same time though it doesn't mean his body is trash because he got hit with great shots from Pacquiao and Mosley. I do agree with you though. The thing is, I don't think Cotto will go to the body, especially if he's fighting backwards.
                  The only reason I'm not as confident as you on this is because I don't know what Margarito will be if this fight does happen. If he can be even the same Margarito that stepped in the ring against Pacquiao, Cotto will fold because he has all the same flaws.

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                  • spyvsspy
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                    #119
                    Fantastic bet your account on Marg winning. You never come back to BS, not with another account, never. You are just a ****ing ***et Marg stan that can't accept the man got to where he did by cheating. Take the bet ***et.

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                    • mex602
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                      Marg got nearly DROPPED by a punch to a guy who weighed 20 pounds less then him, that IS a bad thing, especially when its the 4th round. Also, anyone saying he "applied" pressure as a positive thing is a complete idiot all he did was walk forward, he has to apply it effectively. Manny was going easy on him from the 9th round on and Margs still didn't do anything worth a **** and this is from a guy with fantastic stamina apparently.

                      Also you keep saying Cotto doesn't do this or that, which is PRECISELY the reason he hired Steward. It was to get Cotto to get him to stop doing things wrong and do them correctly, he clinched when necessary in the Mayorga bout, he slipped and rolled with punches something I've NEVER seen Cotto do. He also never got into one of his deep crouches or lean over at the waist as he did each time he was in the ropes with Margarito. I stated it before, Marg can not do anything to improve what he did in the first fight. All he did was pressure Cotto and throw a lot of punches and he still lost 6 rounds in the process. Cotto on the other hand did A LOT of things wrong and still had success, Margs only chance is if Garcia puts brass knuckles on Margs this time.
                      Good point man. The only way cheats has a chance is if he cheats again.....lol

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