where do you rank hopkins all time NOW??

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  • RubenSonny
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    #51
    Originally posted by MARKBNLV
    Who besides Mayorga smokes.i also noticed you bypassed my other two posts.I can watch 90 percent of Hopkins fights online and break them down,with the oldschool fighters you may get a few fights,but like in ssrs resume wheres all the battles with lamotta was lamotta weight drained was he past it no footage how can you tell what went on.Guys like Arum say Pacs the best ever he is old as sht and watched those fights you talk about live.
    They might take drugs behind closed doors, hell I thought Pea beat Oscar and Leonard went on to do great things after sniffing blow.

    Ricky Hatton use to drink a lot.

    Why would I bypass your posts?

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      #52
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      And who is greater out of Shane Mosley and Vernon Forrest?

      The same goes for Pep. Regardless to the fact Saddler beat him 3 times, Pep is by far the greater fighter.
      Thats what i meant.

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        #53
        Originally posted by MARKBNLV
        Thats what i meant.
        Then you agree H2H means little in terms of greatness?

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          #54
          Bernard Hopkins is not a Top 25 all time great.

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            #55
            Originally posted by RubenSonny
            They might take drugs behind closed doors, hell I thought Pea beat Oscar and Leonard went on to do great things after sniffing blow.

            Ricky Hatton use to drink a lot.

            Why would I bypass your posts?
            Hatton still drinks a lot.

            Anyway man to true fans going at each others throats is a pointless fight,you know your shiet so do i,give me some videos you think i have never seen and i will check them out,were here to learn from each other not hate.

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              #56
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Then you agree H2H means little in terms of greatness?
              its just another supplement,dudes back in the days used speed,every era has had its offenders.

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                #57
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Bernard Hopkins is not a Top 25 all time great.
                I can argue that strongly,outside of Roy Jones Jr who i have top 25 also,who has beat hop legit,every fight he has lost is highly questionable.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by MARKBNLV
                  its just another supplement,dudes back in the days used speed,every era has had its offenders.
                  You've lost me.

                  I said H2H means little to greatness.

                  By 'H2H' I mean 'Head to head match ups'.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by MARKBNLV
                    I can argue that strongly,outside of Roy Jones Jr who i have top 25 also,who has beat hop legit,every fight he has lost is highly questionable.
                    That doesn't matter.

                    He still isn't a Top 25 all time great and there is very little argument for him being one.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by MARKBNLV
                      From there age?Bhop is whooping 28 yearolds at home and winning titles.
                      And i have actually fought buddy i am not discrediting any fighter of the past i am just making a case for hop,i want to see your top 25 of alltime that would be interesting.
                      I don't have a top 25 list but I can name 25 fighters that can be considered greater than Bhop:
                      Robinson
                      Langford
                      Greb
                      Armstrong
                      Charles
                      Pep
                      Leonard
                      Leonard
                      Booker
                      Hagler
                      Moore
                      Walker
                      Gans
                      Duran
                      Whitaker
                      Burley
                      Jofre
                      Gavilan
                      Lamotta
                      Nelson
                      Arguello
                      Ross
                      Mclarnin
                      Napoles
                      Rosenbloom
                      Tunney
                      Hearns
                      Walcott
                      Jones
                      Chavez
                      Villa
                      Steele
                      Olivares
                      Ortiz
                      Williams
                      Spinks

                      Not even naming heavyweights.

                      Originally posted by MARKBNLV
                      Hatton still drinks a lot.

                      Anyway man to true fans going at each others throats is a pointless fight,you know your shiet so do i,give me some videos you think i have never seen and i will check them out,were here to learn from each other not hate.
                      Check out some Freddie Steele (one of the more underrated middleweight greats), should be some stuff on youtube.

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