Is Ortiz a better opponent than JMM?

[2120]

Making JMM come up in weight like that, is a straight B.I.T.C.H. move by Team Pacquiao.

i would agree both pac and floyd are guilty of b.i.t.c.h moves by making Marquez come up in weight

but floyd at least is more guilty by not making the weight limit on purpose the day of the fight against Marquez

[Squizz]

but floyd at least is more guilty by not making the weight limit on purpose the day of the fight against Marquez

Hey, I'm a Floyd supporter, but even I will admit that was a B.I.T.C.H. move on the part of Floyd/Team Mayweather.

The truth is the truth.

[Ogecca MaMa]

so many people picked Ortiz.

Ortiz is a cry baby, and mentally weak boxer. once his chin feels some power he automaticly gives up.

Marquez never gives up and after being dropped, he reinforce and go for his opponent right away. Also JMM's skills..ten times what Ortiz has. Few years ago JMM would of win over Ortiz by KO. Now at 147 Ortiz beats old veteran

[-Kev-]

At 140? Yes. At 147? Yes. At 135? No, obviously.

[Ogecca MaMa]

ah, I misread thread title.

and still I tihnk Ortiz is easier opponent for Floyd than JMM. Fight won't last 12 rounds.

[-Kev-]

so many people picked Ortiz.

Ortiz is a cry baby, and mentally weak boxer. once his chin feels some power he automaticly gives up.

Marquez never gives up and after being dropped, he reinforce and go for his opponent right away. Also JMM's skills..ten times what Ortiz has. Few years ago JMM would of win over Ortiz by KO. Now at 147 Ortiz beats old veteran

Marquez would never ever beat Ortiz at 140-147, no years ago. Marquez's condition is very poor above 135.

Ortiz would make a career out of Marquez, sadly because Marquez is one of my favorite fighters and I like Marquez more than Ortiz. But Ortiz-Marquez, would be like DLH vs Chavez to a lesser extent. Ortiz would make a name for himself by beating up Marquez. You can have all the skills in the world, but if you don't have the right conditioning at the weight, you are fucked. And i'm not even talking about size, but if you want to add size in, then that's also a big factor against Marquez, also power.

But P4P, Marquez is better than Ortiz. But is he a better opponent than Ortiz at 140-147? Hell no.

[Jack Napier]

piss drinker much better than Ortiz
too bad he's going to die
Ortiz is only going to lose

[-Antonio-]

No. JMM hasn't really slipped much. I don't see it. He is still a pretty sharp puncher, and he know's Manny. He can always say he's won more rounds than Manny. What happens if he stays upright?