Is Ortiz a better opponent than JMM?

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  • UnDeniable
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    #11
    Floyd was laughed at for fighting Marquez at 147, and for fighting an old mosley

    I don't understand how Pacquiao fans can claim these as great wins for Manny and not for Floyd

    Can somebody explain

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    • Steak
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      #12
      at Welterweight? yes.

      I certainly dont see Marquez beating Ortiz at 147.

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      • Squizz
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        #13
        See, the reason I made this thread, is because people constantly knock Floyd for the caliber of fighters he fights.

        But from what I can see, he fights pretty much only top-notch fighters.

        And at this rate, he's fighting better fighters than Pacquiao.

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        • Phenom
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          #14
          Originally posted by tito_bandito
          People are really really underrating Ortiz lol why would you compare him to a blown up slow Marquez at WW? Yes Marquez is good at LW, but Ortiz packs a punch at WW...this is a dumb question...ppl are too stuck on the past to realize the future is coming...
          people been saying Ortiz had no chance against Berto and actually wanted to see Berto vs Cintron at 147 instead

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          • Walt Liquor
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            #15
            Originally posted by Steak
            at Welterweight? yes.

            I certainly dont see Marquez beating Ortiz at 147.

            Like steak said, and you said. Hell yea he is. what's marquez's record at 147?


            Only a moron (sorry ts) would claim that just becuz ortiz is better at 147 than jmm, that somehow means that floyd is fighting the level of cmp he should be.

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            • Rip Chudd
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              #16
              Originally posted by Phenom
              people been saying Ortiz had no chance against Berto and actually wanted to see Berto vs Cintron at 147 instead
              I wanted to see Cintron vs Berto more than Berto vs Ortiz. Did i think Ortiz could beat Berto? Yes, that's why I placed bets for Ortiz to win, which he did. But the crap Cintron was talking and the fact that Berto was reluctant to face a threat already in his weight class is the reason people wanted that fight more. Nothing against Ortiz.

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              • Walt Liquor
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                #17
                Originally posted by Phenom
                people been saying Ortiz had no chance against Berto and actually wanted to see Berto vs Cintron at 147 instead
                Cintron would murk either at 147

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #18
                  doesnt matter the answer floyd dominated jmm already aswell

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                  • Larry the boss
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by CA$H MONEY
                    Floyd was laughed at for fighting Marquez at 147, and for fighting an old mosley

                    I don't understand how Pacquiao fans can claim these as great wins for Manny and not for Floyd

                    Can somebody explain
                    lol..................exactly

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                    • Squizz
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                      Only a moron (sorry ts) would claim that just becuz ortiz is better at 147 than jmm, that somehow means that floyd is fighting the level of cmp he should be.
                      What? STFU. GTFO out my thread STAT.

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