Is Ortiz a better opponent than JMM?

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  • ballgamessuck
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    #31
    Originally posted by Squizz
    Yes or no?
    Yes, Ortiz is probably a more game fighter at this time. However, if Manny wasnt fighting Marquez, all his haters (I suspect that includes you), would claim that Manny was ducking a third fight with Marquez. As far as your "Manny take the tests" crap, that was a bluff by Floyd, nothing more. Manny called Floyd's bluff, finally did agree to take the tests, and Floyd disappeared for a while. Just the facts.

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    • chiguy91
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      #32
      for the #1 welterweight in the world, yes he is.

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      • Walt Liquor
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        #33
        Originally posted by LarryX2011
        floyd is the #1 ww..the lineal champ..but you and everyone else knows why floyd-,manny hasnt happened

        Yup, I do know why. Cuz Floyd is so petrified of manny that he would rather give up the biggest fight in the last 20 yrs cuz he thinks manny is juicing Nd will beat the dOgshi t outta him. Even though Roger thinks manny is garbage

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        • 2120
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          #34
          in p4p sense of course Juan Manuel Marquez is better than ortiz

          better technique, etc

          but fights are not fought in the mythical world of "p4p" fights are fought in weight division and at welter ortiz is clearly a better opponent than Marquez

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          • Walt Liquor
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            #35
            Bottom line is that neither of these fools deserves any kind of props for the guys they r fighting unless they're fighting each other, Sergio, or a real 154 lb guy (not cotto or canelo) cuz ww ain't shi t.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Squizz
              Personally, I think Pac/JMM at this stage is a joke at anything higher than 140lbs. Heck, I'd wager Pac could still make 135lbs, why not fight there?
              You talk like Pac will come overweight and will have 15 lbs weight advantage like Floyd did to Marquez. Shame!

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                #37
                Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                Bottom line is that neither of these fools deserves any kind of props for the guys they r fighting unless they're fighting each other, Sergio, or a real 154 lb guy (not cotto or canelo) cuz ww ain't shi t.
                Ortiz is the next best option at 147....what is so wrong with this fight......

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                • 2120
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                  Bottom line is that neither of these fools deserves any kind of props for the guys they r fighting unless they're fighting each other, Sergio, or a real 154 lb guy (not cotto or canelo) cuz ww ain't shi t.
                  floyd deserves credit for facing ortiz

                  but i will say this if either floyd or pac dare fight to 154 and the opponent is not sergio martinez then they deserve all the criticism that comes from avoiding a show down with martinez

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                  • Squizz
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by -KPB-
                    Ortiz is the next best option at 147....what is so wrong with this fight......
                    Absolutely nothing. Only a Floyd-hater would disagree. Manny fights JMM above 140lbs, it's a joke. Floyd totally DISMANTLED JMM at what, 144lbs? HE'S NOT BUILT TO FIGHT THAT HEAVY.

                    At least Floyd is giving Victor a fair shake. If he can't get it done now against Floyd, he most likely would have never been able to.

                    Making JMM come up in weight like that, is a straight B.I.T.C.H. move by Team Pacquiao.

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                    • Squizz
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by 2120
                      floyd deserves credit for facing ortiz
                      That's what I say, too.

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