Absolutely, everyone was crying about Shane off a long layoff, it didn't even apply to Floyd when he fought Marquez and now Ortiz. Comes with the territory though. This is a great fight.
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Originally posted by puga View Postthe reason floyd cant get away from critcs with his BS is coz he has done a lot of BS in the past...from cherrypicking to duckin , floyd is famous for it......same as like when it is known that a person is an ex- con, people would be looking at his way more than they would at regular person who has a clean record.......common sense people, common sense....
At 140-147 his resume was a bit off in the earlier times but it didn't help that he was in Shit Rank.
Compare his fights at 140-147 before and after Top Rank. Let's see.
Top Rank 140-147 resume:
!40: WBC Champion Arturo Gatti
Top 10 JWW Demarcus Corley
Henry Bruseles
147:
Sharmba Mitchell[no where near the top 10]
Top 10 WW/IBF WW champion Zab Judah
After Top Rank:
147:
Carlos Baldomir The Ring/Lineal/WBC Champion(First fight after leaving Shit Rank)
De La Hoya WBC Champion @ 154
Former WW Champion/Undefeated Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez[one BS fight]
Lineal Champion/WBA Champion/#1 WW Shane Mosley
#2 Ranked WW/WBC champion Victor Ortiz
If you don't think there's been a drastic improvement in Floyd's WW resume after leaving Bob Arum, then I don't know what to tell you, because it is very obvious that Bob Arum was the reason why Floyd was not getting the biggest fights. Maybe Manny Pacquiao should follow Floyd and leave the old man, become his own boss, maybe we'll see him take on better opposition.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostFloyd's most BS fights were very few. At 130-135 he fought the best, barring a couple of names.
At 140-147 his resume was a bit off in the earlier times but it didn't help that he was in Shit Rank.
Compare his fights at 140-147 before and after Top Rank. Let's see.
Top Rank 140-147 resume:
!40: WBC Champion Arturo Gatti
Top 10 JWW Demarcus Corley
Henry Bruseles
147:
Sharmba Mitchell[no where near the top 10]
Top 10 WW/IBF WW champion Zab Judah
After Top Rank:
147:
Carlos Baldomir The Ring/Lineal/WBC Champion(First fight after leaving Shit Rank)
De La Hoya WBC Champion @ 154
Former WW Champion/Undefeated Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez[one BS fight]
Lineal Champion/WBA Champion/#1 WW Shane Mosley
#2 Ranked WW/WBC champion Victor Ortiz
If you don't think there's been a drastic improvement in Floyd's WW resume after leaving Bob Arum, then I don't know what to tell you, because it is very obvious that Bob Arum was the reason why Floyd was not getting the biggest fights. Maybe Manny Pacquiao should follow Floyd and leave the old man, become his own boss, maybe we'll see him take on better opposition.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostFloyd's most BS fights were very few. At 130-135 he fought the best, barring a couple of names.
At 140-147 his resume was a bit off in the earlier times but it didn't help that he was in Shit Rank.
Compare his fights at 140-147 before and after Top Rank. Let's see.
Top Rank 140-147 resume:
!40: WBC Champion Arturo Gatti
Top 10 JWW Demarcus Corley
Henry Bruseles
147:
Sharmba Mitchell[no where near the top 10]
Top 10 WW/IBF WW champion Zab Judah
After Top Rank:
147:
Carlos Baldomir The Ring/Lineal/WBC Champion(First fight after leaving Shit Rank)
De La Hoya WBC Champion @ 154
Former WW Champion/Undefeated Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez[one BS fight]
Lineal Champion/WBA Champion/#1 WW Shane Mosley
#2 Ranked WW/WBC champion Victor Ortiz
If you don't think there's been a drastic improvement in Floyd's WW resume after leaving Bob Arum, then I don't know what to tell you, because it is very obvious that Bob Arum was the reason why Floyd was not getting the biggest fights. Maybe Manny Pacquiao should follow Floyd and leave the old man, become his own boss, maybe we'll see him take on better opposition.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostFloyd's most BS fights were very few. At 130-135 he fought the best, barring a couple of names.
At 140-147 his resume was a bit off in the earlier times but it didn't help that he was in Shit Rank.
Compare his fights at 140-147 before and after Top Rank. Let's see.
Top Rank 140-147 resume:
!40: WBC Champion Arturo Gatti
Top 10 JWW Demarcus Corley
Henry Bruseles
147:
Sharmba Mitchell[no where near the top 10]
Top 10 WW/IBF WW champion Zab Judah
After Top Rank:
147:
Carlos Baldomir The Ring/Lineal/WBC Champion(First fight after leaving Shit Rank)
De La Hoya WBC Champion @ 154
Former WW Champion/Undefeated Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez[one BS fight]
Lineal Champion/WBA Champion/#1 WW Shane Mosley
#2 Ranked WW/WBC champion Victor Ortiz
If you don't think there's been a drastic improvement in Floyd's WW resume after leaving Bob Arum, then I don't know what to tell you, because it is very obvious that Bob Arum was the reason why Floyd was not getting the biggest fights. Maybe Manny Pacquiao should follow Floyd and leave the old man, become his own boss, maybe we'll see him take on better opposition.
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Originally posted by puga View Postfloyd above 135, has fought no one impressive ....nothing....shane and hoya were good wins but nothing impressive......and he retired twice for the same reason..to duck all fights that fans were demanding ....it's not rocket scinece why he gets criticized more than everyone, he did it to himself.....it's clear to see he is the most guilty when it comes to what is a bad about boxing.......the ortiz fight is good tho!..
Everybody was demanding a Baldomir fight in 2006, you probably weren't around though, so I don't blame you for not knowing. Cotto was at 140 in 2006, the Margarito ducking accusations really came in heavily early 2007. Hatton, DLH @ 154, and Mosley were all legit fights, what are you talking about they were not impressive match ups? If Floyd wouldn't have fought them, people would have said he ducked them. Amazing.
It's not rocket science that Floyd and Bob Arum can't do business together.
Pacquiao vs Cotto @145/Margarito @150/Mosley/Marquez @ 144...Everybody and there mothers were demanding these fights....yeah.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostAll fights that fans were demanding or all fighters from Top Rank?
Everybody was demanding a Baldomir fight in 2006, you probably weren't around though, so I don't blame you for not knowing. Cotto was at 140 in 2006, the Margarito ducking accusations really came in heavily early 2007. Hatton, DLH @ 154, and Mosley were all legit fights, what are you talking about they were not impressive match ups? If Floyd wouldn't have fought them, people would have said he ducked them. Amazing.
It's not rocket science that Floyd and Bob Arum can't do business together.
Pacquiao vs Cotto @145/Margarito @150/Mosley/Marquez @ 144...Everybody and there mothers were demanding these fights....yeah.Last edited by puga; 06-09-2011, 11:56 PM.
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2nd ranked WW on the planet is considered a tune up for Floyd. Number 2 p4p considered a tune up for Floyd(it was just a tad more than that not much more though). Sometimes being the best makes it so you never win.
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