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  • #81
    Absolutely, everyone was crying about Shane off a long layoff, it didn't even apply to Floyd when he fought Marquez and now Ortiz. Comes with the territory though. This is a great fight.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Phil Ivey View Post
      Absolutely, everyone was crying about Shane off a long layoff, it didn't even apply to Floyd when he fought Marquez and now Ortiz. Comes with the territory though. This is a great fight.
      Of course not.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by puga View Post
        the reason floyd cant get away from critcs with his BS is coz he has done a lot of BS in the past...from cherrypicking to duckin , floyd is famous for it......same as like when it is known that a person is an ex- con, people would be looking at his way more than they would at regular person who has a clean record.......common sense people, common sense....
        Floyd's most BS fights were very few. At 130-135 he fought the best, barring a couple of names.

        At 140-147 his resume was a bit off in the earlier times but it didn't help that he was in Shit Rank.

        Compare his fights at 140-147 before and after Top Rank. Let's see.

        Top Rank 140-147 resume:
        !40: WBC Champion Arturo Gatti
        Top 10 JWW Demarcus Corley
        Henry Bruseles

        147:
        Sharmba Mitchell[no where near the top 10]
        Top 10 WW/IBF WW champion Zab Judah



        After Top Rank:

        147:
        Carlos Baldomir The Ring/Lineal/WBC Champion(First fight after leaving Shit Rank)
        De La Hoya WBC Champion @ 154
        Former WW Champion/Undefeated Ricky Hatton
        Juan Manuel Marquez[one BS fight]
        Lineal Champion/WBA Champion/#1 WW Shane Mosley
        #2 Ranked WW/WBC champion Victor Ortiz

        If you don't think there's been a drastic improvement in Floyd's WW resume after leaving Bob Arum, then I don't know what to tell you, because it is very obvious that Bob Arum was the reason why Floyd was not getting the biggest fights. Maybe Manny Pacquiao should follow Floyd and leave the old man, become his own boss, maybe we'll see him take on better opposition.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
          Floyd's most BS fights were very few. At 130-135 he fought the best, barring a couple of names.

          At 140-147 his resume was a bit off in the earlier times but it didn't help that he was in Shit Rank.

          Compare his fights at 140-147 before and after Top Rank. Let's see.

          Top Rank 140-147 resume:
          !40: WBC Champion Arturo Gatti
          Top 10 JWW Demarcus Corley
          Henry Bruseles

          147:
          Sharmba Mitchell[no where near the top 10]
          Top 10 WW/IBF WW champion Zab Judah



          After Top Rank:

          147:
          Carlos Baldomir The Ring/Lineal/WBC Champion(First fight after leaving Shit Rank)
          De La Hoya WBC Champion @ 154
          Former WW Champion/Undefeated Ricky Hatton
          Juan Manuel Marquez[one BS fight]
          Lineal Champion/WBA Champion/#1 WW Shane Mosley
          #2 Ranked WW/WBC champion Victor Ortiz

          If you don't think there's been a drastic improvement in Floyd's WW resume after leaving Bob Arum, then I don't know what to tell you, because it is very obvious that Bob Arum was the reason why Floyd was not getting the biggest fights. Maybe Manny Pacquiao should follow Floyd and leave the old man, become his own boss, maybe we'll see him take on better opposition.
          floyd above 135, has fought no one impressive ....nothing....shane and hoya were good wins but nothing impressive......and he retired twice for the same reason..to duck all fights that fans were demanding ....it's not rocket scinece why he gets criticized more than everyone, he did it to himself.....it's clear to see he is the most guilty when it comes to what is a bad about boxing.......the ortiz fight is good tho!..

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          • #85
            Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
            Floyd's most BS fights were very few. At 130-135 he fought the best, barring a couple of names.

            At 140-147 his resume was a bit off in the earlier times but it didn't help that he was in Shit Rank.

            Compare his fights at 140-147 before and after Top Rank. Let's see.

            Top Rank 140-147 resume:
            !40: WBC Champion Arturo Gatti
            Top 10 JWW Demarcus Corley
            Henry Bruseles

            147:
            Sharmba Mitchell[no where near the top 10]
            Top 10 WW/IBF WW champion Zab Judah



            After Top Rank:

            147:
            Carlos Baldomir The Ring/Lineal/WBC Champion(First fight after leaving Shit Rank)
            De La Hoya WBC Champion @ 154
            Former WW Champion/Undefeated Ricky Hatton
            Juan Manuel Marquez[one BS fight]
            Lineal Champion/WBA Champion/#1 WW Shane Mosley
            #2 Ranked WW/WBC champion Victor Ortiz

            If you don't think there's been a drastic improvement in Floyd's WW resume after leaving Bob Arum, then I don't know what to tell you, because it is very obvious that Bob Arum was the reason why Floyd was not getting the biggest fights. Maybe Manny Pacquiao should follow Floyd and leave the old man, become his own boss, maybe we'll see him take on better opposition.
            good post green K

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            • #86
              Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
              Floyd's most BS fights were very few. At 130-135 he fought the best, barring a couple of names.

              At 140-147 his resume was a bit off in the earlier times but it didn't help that he was in Shit Rank.

              Compare his fights at 140-147 before and after Top Rank. Let's see.

              Top Rank 140-147 resume:
              !40: WBC Champion Arturo Gatti
              Top 10 JWW Demarcus Corley
              Henry Bruseles

              147:
              Sharmba Mitchell[no where near the top 10]
              Top 10 WW/IBF WW champion Zab Judah



              After Top Rank:

              147:
              Carlos Baldomir The Ring/Lineal/WBC Champion(First fight after leaving Shit Rank)
              De La Hoya WBC Champion @ 154
              Former WW Champion/Undefeated Ricky Hatton
              Juan Manuel Marquez[one BS fight]
              Lineal Champion/WBA Champion/#1 WW Shane Mosley
              #2 Ranked WW/WBC champion Victor Ortiz

              If you don't think there's been a drastic improvement in Floyd's WW resume after leaving Bob Arum, then I don't know what to tell you, because it is very obvious that Bob Arum was the reason why Floyd was not getting the biggest fights. Maybe Manny Pacquiao should follow Floyd and leave the old man, become his own boss, maybe we'll see him take on better opposition.
              good post, and maybe manny can make more money... he is the #1p4p but floyd make more money than him????

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              • #87
                Originally posted by puga View Post
                floyd above 135, has fought no one impressive ....nothing....shane and hoya were good wins but nothing impressive......and he retired twice for the same reason..to duck all fights that fans were demanding ....it's not rocket scinece why he gets criticized more than everyone, he did it to himself.....it's clear to see he is the most guilty when it comes to what is a bad about boxing.......the ortiz fight is good tho!..
                All fights that fans were demanding or all fighters from Top Rank?

                Everybody was demanding a Baldomir fight in 2006, you probably weren't around though, so I don't blame you for not knowing. Cotto was at 140 in 2006, the Margarito ducking accusations really came in heavily early 2007. Hatton, DLH @ 154, and Mosley were all legit fights, what are you talking about they were not impressive match ups? If Floyd wouldn't have fought them, people would have said he ducked them. Amazing.

                It's not rocket science that Floyd and Bob Arum can't do business together.

                Pacquiao vs Cotto @145/Margarito @150/Mosley/Marquez @ 144...Everybody and there mothers were demanding these fights....yeah.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                  All fights that fans were demanding or all fighters from Top Rank?

                  Everybody was demanding a Baldomir fight in 2006, you probably weren't around though, so I don't blame you for not knowing. Cotto was at 140 in 2006, the Margarito ducking accusations really came in heavily early 2007. Hatton, DLH @ 154, and Mosley were all legit fights, what are you talking about they were not impressive match ups? If Floyd wouldn't have fought them, people would have said he ducked them. Amazing.

                  It's not rocket science that Floyd and Bob Arum can't do business together.

                  Pacquiao vs Cotto @145/Margarito @150/Mosley/Marquez @ 144...Everybody and there mothers were demanding these fights....yeah.
                  baldomir was a bum, always has been ....i always knew he was too slow , too one diemtional to be anyonye impressive.....only ******s thought he was elite.....and no, blaming top rank aint gona cut it....its either you fight them or not.....floyd chose not to, ..putting the blame on the promoters is just insulting the publics intelligence...that stunt aint gonna cut it to adults who think...the fact that he did not fight any of them insted he retired is justice for all times floyd was getting ****ted on.....it is what it is.....
                  Last edited by puga; 06-09-2011, 11:56 PM.

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                  • #89
                    2nd ranked WW on the planet is considered a tune up for Floyd. Number 2 p4p considered a tune up for Floyd(it was just a tad more than that not much more though). Sometimes being the best makes it so you never win.

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                    • #90
                      Floyd is past his prime.....

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