How much credit will Wladimir Klitchko receive if he knocks out David Haye?

[K-DOGG]

good to see you around, K-Dogg


too bad Raven from ESB doesn't post here...i'd like to see Tunney and him get into it

Heh, heh, Yeah. I do miss those boyz.

Good to see you too, hoss.

[vacon04]

I don't really know, first I thought that Wlad was not respected at all, but surfing in some threads about this super bout I see that most people, even when they say that Wlad is not so great, have confidence that Wlad can KO Haye. So even when he's not as respected as he could be people do respect his power and the fact that at the moment he's going to be very hard to beat.

If he beats Haye by KO maybe some guys will give him more respect, I think mainly in UK, especially if he beats Haye in a very dominant way. People from the US (most, not everyone because some people are really objective) have problem respecting not only Wlad but every boxer from the HW division only because there are no good HW from the US. But let's see right? I think that the most possible outcome is Wlad by KO over Haye.

[Jeff Da Maori]

Maybe the Wlad fans who say Haye was a bum shouldn't give Wlad much credit for knocking him out...

But the Haye nuthuggers who consider Haye the second coming of Muhammed Ali should consider a Wlad KO of Haye a GREAT win for Dr. Steelhammer.

We've both been here for years now Tunney, whoever loses will have been exposed, while the winner is instantly an ATG and undefeatable in fantasy fights. To be honest, I'm only interested in this fight because it's gonna bring about the suicide of either JoeyZags or Klitschko2011.

[The Hammer]

The boxing writers like Eric Raskin, William Dettloff & Michael Rosenthal, and commentators like Teddy Atlas, Max Kellerman, Steve Farhood, & Al Bernstein will never give Wlad credit no matter what he does.

But the better writers and commentators like Doug Fischer and Dan Rafael will continue to be fair to him.

Some idiots like Steve Bunce who seem to have a gay thing for Haye will make excuses for him, as will our nuthugging **** poster Rick Grimes.

But most commentators, writers and boxing fans in the UK will give Wlad some credit.

Haye isn't as good a boxer as Chagaev, Ibragimov, Chambers, 2008 Thompson and 2005 Peter, but he IS a dangerous puncher in the early rounds and so Wlad deserves some credit for taking a risk by fighting him.

Overall, people's opinions of Wlad will not change if he wins, but if Haye wins he'll be considered a ATG. That's because of the old racist double standard.

[j.one]

If Wlad wins in impressive aggressive fashion he will be respected through the roof. If he makes it an ugly fight and fights scared again even with a win it will be bad for him, he has to win in a manner that gives the fans what they want to get the respect he wants. Klit fans won't like this but when you factor in that Haye must win in the same fashion to get his real respect, this is why it's a make or break fight for both.

[Calza appy]

I won't give that boring cunny any credit for KOing a cruiser weight. Will happen though

[The Hammer]

If Wlad wins in impressive aggressive fashion he will be respected through the roof. If he makes it an ugly fight and fights scared again even with a win it will be bad for him, he has to win in a manner that gives the fans what they want to get the respect he wants. Klit fans won't like this but when you factor in that Haye must win in the same fashion to get his real respect, this is why it's a make or break fight for both.

Why win Hopkins and Ward win ugly fights by decisions they are respected, yet when Wlad wins by dominating many rounds and then KO his opponent he is b1tched about?

I remember even when Wlad KOed Austin in round 2, Yahoo's writer Dan "Arse" Iole b1tched about it.

[The Hammer]

I won't give that boring cunny any credit for KOing a cruiser weight. Will happen though

David Haye said in early 2008 he could not make cruiserweight any more.

Haye is a natural HW. He hid at CW for as long as he could to protect his chin.

Tomasz Adamek is a natural cruiserweight, who had no problem making 200.

[IMDAZED]

David Gaye is a fraud so Wlad should get no credit. Right, Tunney?

[The Hammer]

David Gaye is a fraud so Wlad should get no credit. Right, Tunney?

Read my post above. What did I say?

You CAN read a bit, can't you?

These people who are picking Haye to win should give Wlad credit though:

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Teddy Atlas is picking Haye to win, but won't give Wlad any credit if he KOs Haye.