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  • #71
    Uncle Roger just loves that crack smoke.

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    • #72
      LMAO and let the party begin! U literally have to try and turn ur brain off when reading a roger quote. It's the only way to make any sense of what he's saying.

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      • #73
        The Mayweathers are not ****** they are just full of crap. Rarely do you get an honest opinion from any of them because their pride can't handle it.

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        • #74
          So sick of this sh it it's ridiculous.

          Anyone that defends these comments or the fight, shame on you.

          How many times has Floyd now avoided the obvious big fight in Manny, signed to fight someone else a few weeks after Manny has signed one.

          Used nasty drug accusations and slandering to mistify a duck, Manny also has said he'll do any tests, Floyd said take the tests and the fight is signed. So what the fu ck is this shi t now?

          Not even Martinez.

          I don't get why he's not completely shunned from the sport.

          This is a guy whom until the previous fight was considered a B fighter at best. He lost to Maidana, and went down in his last fight which is the one thing getting him any hype.

          Christ if not Manny, then at LEAST talk of Khan, Martinez or someone.
          Last edited by Kris Silver; 06-08-2011, 12:16 PM.

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          • #75
            Ortiz is willng to do OSDA

            Once again people are looking for excuses. Everybody willing including Mayweather to submit to drug test. Pac even had Mosley do one. But Pac doesn't want to for a guaranteed $50 mil and people don't think something is wrong......Hey anybody not willing to take a test for $50 mil minimum I wouldn't trust they are clean either.........

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            • #76
              Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
              Grus, I think he responded well enough to debunk what you normally depict as "proof, where you simply take someone else' quotes and apply your own preformed context to them. That's all well and good, except you have a narrative that you like to keep pushing. I'm not saying that you're wrong, but on the other side of that equation, it's presumptuous of you to think that you're right. What weight did they spar at? Was it competitive at a time when Manny hadn't hit the pique of his talents? And if it was...then what does that say about Ortiz who has been inconsistent at best. It's more of an indictment on him that anyone else. And for the record I'm not a *******. I think it's time that Manny starts stepping up his competition again.
              The only time I pull out quotes is when people on here start to use their opinions and try to make them facts. How can any of us know more than the guys who actually said it? You have to admit, that on here, there are alot of posters who swear straight up and down that their opinions are true. When I post quotes, I basically emphasize on what the actual article said. You should know me by now and I don't be on here talking smack or starting no unnesscary debates. I can see exactly what's going on for myself and don't need to add anything extra on it.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by goldenbear View Post
                Once again people are looking for excuses. Everybody willing including Mayweather to submit to drug test. Pac even had Mosley do one. But Pac doesn't want to for a guaranteed $50 mil and people don't think something is wrong......Hey anybody not willing to take a test for $50 mil minimum I wouldn't trust they are clean either.........
                Anyone who hits their wife, girlfriend or security guards. I wouldn't trust their judgment or credibility.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                  On Tuesday morning and afternoon the talk of the boxing world was of Floyd Mayweather Jr. and his claims that he is set for a September 17th showdown with WBC welterweight champion Victor Ortiz. Mayweather has been inactive since his drubbing of Shane Mosley in May of last year and the fight against the 24-year old Ortiz is a step in the right direction. [Click Here To Read More]
                  I think good'o Roger is in love with Pac.......

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
                    agree. floyd did the right thing by signing with ortiz... like i stated before, ortiz has the tools to be competitive, but at this stage, he is not ready for floyd. this is another high-profile tune-up (although floyd immediately retires afterward... so should it be considered a tune-up??)

                    the only thing that bothers me is that floyd CHOOSES to make moves when pac is contractually obligated...
                    • pac signs with clottey; floyd grabs opportunity to fight shane (great move).
                    • pac signs with margs; floyd goes attention-starved rant.
                    • pac signs with shane; again, floyd goes straight to the media
                    • pac signs with jmm; floyd signs with ortiz (great move again)

                    to me, i find it very convenient that when pac is contractually free, floyd is silent and is not thinking about boxing... then once pac signs, floyd is quick to make his moves... whether it be verbal attention-whoring or signing a fight.

                    yes, "take the test" argument applies... but when floyd states that there are NO NEGOTIATIONS happening, even if pac agreed, it is null.

                    pac is completely guilty for choosing undeserving opponents, but when pac is available to sign a fight, floyd disappears.

                    i would LOVE for floyd to have the contract signed & delivered putting the ball in pac's court... calling out pac OFFICIALLY. but instead, we get the "take the test" argument/propaganda even if floyd is "not thinking about boxing"... its like when pac "agrees to all testing" yet there is no papers signed...
                    I think Pac and Floyd's ego's are too big and they stay in competition with each other. The one thing that doesn't sell me on the whole Floyd is ducking Manny thing is that, Floyd was ready for Manny and Pac went to fight Clottey? How could Foyd be ducking Manny now when he was willing to fight him then? No Pac fan still has answered that question. How can anyone say Floyd ducked Pac when it should not have been a 2nd or 3rd negotiation? If a fighter really wants to fight. Then he is going to fight him. Manny didn't want the fight bad enough and as long as this fued goes on. I will always remember that Pac had the chance to accept the tests and calls Floyd's bluff but he didn't. I will never cosign Floyd is scared of Pac. Sure everytime Pac is signed to a fight Floyd talks because Pac is always signing to fight other fighters before he even steps in the ring. Hell, he was in training camp for Mosley when the JMM match up was already basically a done deal. After Mosley, Pac was asked if he wanted to fight Floyd and Pac said "If the fans want me to" What kind of answer is that? If people think Floyd is scared to fight Pac. Then what about Pac? Mad excuses, fights already signed before he fights an opponent but beforehand he is always mentioning Mayweather? I refuse to dumb down my intelligence or common sense because of Manny Pacquiao.

                    Floyd is coming back and fighting Victor Ortiz after over a year. Pac didnt even want to fight Ortiz like he didn't want to fight Mosley til after Floyd BUT Shane was begging Pac for a fight. EVEN said he would do a catchweight. How much more proof do you guys need? Pac is supposed to be the best but he fought Mosley who everyone knew was done and the fight stunk. Floyd's coming back for Ortiz who just had a great win and won a title from an unbeaten champion.... Ortiz>>>>Mosley. Pac is playing it safe and it is as clear as day. But I'm considered a hater for stating the obvious? PLEASE.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      The only time I pull out quotes is when people on here start to use their opinions and try to make them facts. How can any of us know more than the guys who actually said it? You have to admit, that on here, there are alot of posters who swear straight up and down that their opinions are true. When I post quotes, I basically emphasize on what the actual article said. You should know me by now and I don't be on here talking smack or starting no unnesscary debates. I can see exactly what's going on for myself and don't need to add anything extra on it.
                      I feel you and I didn't mean to come off like I was directing anything at you. All I'm trying to say, is that all of those quotes on a larger scale, need to be viewed in context. Arum is a promoter, whatever he says is truth today, lies tomorrow, so I know personally to immediately to discount anything this guy says. Also he's an attorney, if anyone knows an attorney, or works closely with them, you know what I'm referring to. I do agree with you that Pac needs to step up his competition because he's beginning to damage his brand and tarnish his reputation.

                      I like Ortiz for Mayweather, especially with being off for so long, Ortiz def ain't no soft touch, so I give him (May) credit for that. I can only hope that Mayweather engages in tough fights from here on out, and by that I mean Martinez at 154.

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