agree, and those 40+ wins on Chavez'z record could use less padding. time to become a legend. no shame in losing to Martinez. Chavez holding his own would boost him into the stratosphere. why not take the opportunity? cuzz Arum and Roach don't believe in him. let's see what the kid has to say or does everyone under Arum have no voice?
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I can see Bob Arum and Sulaiman trying to pay Sergio Martinez off. He is the emeritus champion and has the right to force Chavez's hand. If the WBC tries to duck this then it would not be a good look for them, to go with the many other bad looks.Comment
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I truly cannot stand Manny Pacquiao fans. I don't even have that much against Manny Pacquiao himself as much as I do against his fans. They say absolutely nothing about anything and everything except Manny Pacquiao. They know nothing else about the sport.Comment
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in between losing to margarito and beating cintron, who has martinez really beat? i just see no names (see list below):
Sergiy Dzinziruk
Paul Williams KO
Kelly Pavlik UD 12
Paul Williams MD 12
Kermit Cintron Draw 12
Alex Bunema RTD 8
Archak TerMeliksetian TKO
David Toribio UD 4
Russell Jordan TKO 4
Pavel Florin Madalin RTD 4
Saul Roman KO 4
Oliver Tchinda KO 5
Vasile Surcica UD 12
Presente Brito TKO 1
Tamaz Tskrialashvili TKO 6
Alvaro Moreno Gamboa KO 2
Albert Ai****tian KO 11
Jorge Teixeira Pina RTD 5
Richard Williams TKO 9
Adrian Stone KO 12
Richard Williams UD 12
Frank Oppong UD 8
Miguel Angel Perez KO
Alvaro Moreno Gamboa UD 8
Francisco Antonio Mora UD 10
Sergio Ernesto Acuna TKO 7
Javier Alejandro Blanco UD
Enrique Areco RTD 8
Elbio Felipe Gonzlaez TKO 6
Adrian Walter Daneff KO 4
Javier Alejandro Blanco UD 8
Antonio Margarito TKO 7
the only two wins that i say are quality wins on his resume are his win against williams and maybe pavlik...who are the rest of these guys other than cintron who was basically on a downsing at the time martinez beat him? and the rest of the opponants? i havent heard of any of them.
according to martinez's fight record, i dont see who were the top jr middleweight or middleweights on the list above...cotto going up in weight wouldve been a better opponant for martinez than dzinzurik...but yah, look at the names on martinez's resume...other than margarito, who were those guys up until he fought cintron and up?
P4P BEST? YAH MY AHSS...LMFAO!!!
to the guy that said martinez dominated the jr middleweight and middleweight...i dont see any impressive names on that list other than williams, and maybe pavlik, that about it...nothing P4P about that resume, HAHAHA...LMFAO at that no name list ;o)
now compare martinez's to pacs resume, HAHAHA...no fahkin contest...if martinez wants to have an impressive resume, he needs to move up to supermiddleweight, beat froch and ward, then move up tp light heavyweight and beat atleast one of the belt holders,,,if martinez can do that, then he is my P4P king...until then, martinez is just a "MARAVIAGRA"Last edited by indystress; 06-07-2011, 03:14 AM.Comment
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His last five fights are vs decent opposition especially in some circumstances where Williams was known as 'iron chinned' at the time and was laid clean out. Pacquiao obviously has the better resume but Martinez just needs to keep beating what's in-front of him. Chavez, Sturm, Pirog, would be nice names on the resume.in between losing to margarito and beating cintron, who has martinez really beat? i just see no names (see list below):
Sergiy Dzinziruk
Paul Williams KO
Kelly Pavlik UD 12
Paul Williams MD 12
Kermit Cintron Draw 12
Alex Bunema RTD 8
Archak TerMeliksetian TKO
David Toribio UD 4
Russell Jordan TKO 4
Pavel Florin Madalin RTD 4
Saul Roman KO 4
Oliver Tchinda KO 5
Vasile Surcica UD 12
Presente Brito TKO 1
Tamaz Tskrialashvili TKO 6
Alvaro Moreno Gamboa KO 2
Albert Ai****tian KO 11
Jorge Teixeira Pina RTD 5
Richard Williams TKO 9
Adrian Stone KO 12
Richard Williams UD 12
Frank Oppong UD 8
Miguel Angel Perez KO
Alvaro Moreno Gamboa UD 8
Francisco Antonio Mora UD 10
Sergio Ernesto Acuna TKO 7
Javier Alejandro Blanco UD
Enrique Areco RTD 8
Elbio Felipe Gonzlaez TKO 6
Adrian Walter Daneff KO 4
Javier Alejandro Blanco UD 8
Antonio Margarito TKO 7
the only two wins that i say are quality wins on his resume are his win against williams and maybe pavlik...who are the rest of these guys other than cintron who was basically on a downsing at the time martinez beat him? and the rest of the opponants? i havent heard of any of them.
according to martinez's fight record, i dont see who were the top jr middleweight or middleweights on the list above...cotto going up in weight wouldve been a better opponant for martinez than dzinzurik...but yah, look at the names on martinez's resume...other than margarito, who were those guys up until he fought cintron and up?
P4P BEST? YAH MY AHSS...LMFAO!!!
to the guy that said martinez dominated the jr middleweight and middleweight...i dont see any impressive names on that list other than williams, and maybe pavlik, that about it...nothing P4P about that resume, HAHAHA...LMFAO at that no name list ;o)
now compare martinez's to pacs resume, HAHAHA...no fahkin contest...if martinez wants to have an impressive resume, he needs to move up to supermiddleweight, beat froch and ward, then move up tp light heavyweight and beat atleast one of the belt holders,,,if martinez can do that, then he is my P4P king...until then, martinez is just a "MARAVIAGRA"
Martinez started at welterweight as well btw. He don't need to move up as far as light heavyweight, the SMW division is the only viable option after he destroys Chavez, Pirog.
Quit being a ******* as well it's just sad.Comment
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It already happened. Apparently Martinez fighting a middleweight that balloons to 180lbs on fightnight and that carries a legit middleweight belt is cherrypicking. I fail to see how but that's wat it is.
So supposedly Martinez can't fight anyone who doesn't have a chance of beating him, regardless of the weight. Thing is from 154 to 160, no1 really has a chance of beating him! So I guess he must join the super 6 or fight bhop.Comment
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Who in the hell said this?His last five fights are vs decent opposition especially in some circumstances where Williams was known as 'iron chinned' at the time and was laid clean out. Pacquiao obviously has the better resume but Martinez just needs to keep beating what's in-front of him. Chavez, Sturm, Pirog, would be nice names on the resume.
Martinez started at welterweight as well btw. He don't need to move up as far as light heavyweight, the SMW division is the only viable option after he destroys Chavez, Pirog.
Quit being a ******* as well it's just sad.
CONGRATULATIONS to Sergio "Maravilla" Martinez for being ESPN's & BWAA 2010 fighter of the year and EARNING KO of the year over Paul "The Punisher" Williams
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"Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. – and possibly Nonito Donaire – rank above him in pound-for-pound rankings. However, no fighter has accomplished more than Martinez over the past two years when you consider his opponents"
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