Will Froch now FINALLY be recognised as a top10 P4P fighter?

[strykr619]

Take Giovanni Segura off that list and Put Froch in their instead. If he beats Ward IMO he bumps out JMM for #5

[-Kev-]

Based on competition alone he has to be.

Otherwise, what really is the point in a P4P list.

Why not have Bute on there? He looks great destroying fighters who are good two levels below him in terms of ability.

For people who dominate top competition which Froch has only done with Abraham and Johnson. He did not dominate Pascal, Dirrell, or Kessler.

[any craic lad?]

Take Giovanni Segura off that list and Put Froch in their instead. If he beats Ward IMO he bumps out JMM for #5

What why should Segura be taken off?If anyone is taken off it should be Pongsalek hes done nothing since the Kameda win

[a-force]

He's at least no.10, at least.

If he beats ward he should break the top 5 easily.

[-Kev-]

Yes, clearly Ward beat Kessler who beat Froch........bla, bla, bla. That means nothing to me.

Who has fought better opposition in their last 6 fights? FROCH.

Who has been allowed to fight at home in EVERY round of the SS? WARD.

Froch should be favourite for this fight, ok so Ward is undefeated? Big deal, so is Chavez Jnr and i don’t think anyone is really going to say that he is top 10.

Froch BRINGS IT. Ward.....he’s got to do more to impress me half as much.

P4P top 10 is not about fighting top competition.

Is about actually beating them, and beating for real, not some hometown decision.


If it's really about competition faced in the last 6 fights, then Shane Mosley should be P4P #1 because he has Pacquiao, Mora, Mayweather, Margarito, Mayorga, and Cotto, in his last 6 fights.

To the bold: Froch needs to go back in time and beat Kessler and Dirrell handily in order to impress me. At least beat Kessler.

[Walt Liquor]

His skin color is the only thing keeping him out of p4p top 5. Look at his resume and tell me he isn't great?

If he beats ward, he is p4p #1

Worst post I've seen in at least 4 days on here, maybe 5 days

[£-4-£]

Carl Froch's resume > Tim Bradley's:

- Glen Johnson > Junior Witter

- Arthur Abraham > Lamont Peterson (Abraham isn't great at SMW but what has Peterson accomplished? The best thing about his resume is a draw against Victor Ortiz, which was a gift decision.)

- Jean Pascal > Devon Alexander (Pascal went on to become lineal LHW champ where as Alexander got a gift decision against Kotelnik)

- Jermaine Taylor > Kendall Holt

- Miguel Vazquez > Andre Dirrell (Dirrell is more talented and went on to beat Abraham, but like I said Abraham isn't great at SMW. Vazquez went on to win a vacant title at Lightweight but has defended it twice)

Yet Tim Bradley is ranked higher because:
- Froch dropped a disputable decision to Kessler.

I scored the Kessler-Froch fight a draw, so I think Froch was unfortunate. I think if they were to rematch then Froch would win because Froch has shown that we can change his style (Abraham and Johnson fights). Besides, there's no shame in losing a very close fight to a great champion, like Kessler, in a FotY candidate.

- Bradley beat another undefeated American hype-job, Devon Alexander.

Froch's resume > Andre Ward's too.

Ward's only great win was against Kessler. But there's no denying that Calzaghe took a bit of Kessler's soul and he's never been the same. However it was a great performance from Ward to beat Kessler. But Froch is the one that nearly retired Kessler.

Wins against Sakio Bika, Allan Green, Edinson Miranda, and Arthur Abraham (who was Dirrell's and Froch's leftovers) are not as impressive as wins over Jean Pascal, Andre Dirrell, Jermaine Taylor, Arthur Abraham and Glen Johnson.

Again, the fact that Ward has an '0' means Ward is instantly considered a better fighter.

[Walt Liquor]

Carl Froch's resume > Tim Bradley's:

- Glen Johnson > Junior Witter

- Arthur Abraham > Lamont Peterson (Abraham isn't great at SMW but what has Peterson accomplished? The best thing about his resume is a draw against Victor Ortiz, which was a gift decision.)

- Jean Pascal > Devon Alexander (Pascal went on to become lineal LHW champ where as Alexander got a gift decision against Kotelnik)

- Jermaine Taylor > Kendall Holt

- Miguel Vazquez > Andre Dirrell (Dirrell is more talented and went on to beat Abraham, but like I said Abraham isn't great at SMW. Vazquez went on to win a vacant title at Lightweight but has defended it twice)

Yet Tim Bradley is ranked higher because:
- Froch dropped a disputable decision to Kessler.

I scored the Kessler-Froch fight a draw, so I think Froch was unfortunate. I think if they were to rematch then Froch would win because Froch has shown that we can change his style (Abraham and Johnson fights). Besides, there's no shame in losing a very close fight to a great champion, like Kessler, in a FotY candidate.

- Bradley beat another undefeated American hype-job, Devon Alexander.

Froch's resume > Andre Ward's too.

Ward's only great win was against Kessler. But there's no denying that Calzaghe took a bit of Kessler's soul and he's never been the same. However it was a great performance from Ward to beat Kessler. But Froch is the one that nearly retired Kessler.

Wins against Sakio Bika, Allan Green, Edinson Miranda, and Arthur Abraham (who was Dirrell's and Froch's leftovers) are not as impressive as wins over Jean Pascal, Andre Dirrell, Jermaine Taylor, Arthur Abraham and Glen Johnson.

Again, the fact that Ward has an '0' means Ward is instantly considered a better fighter.

When's the last time you saw someone at the top of the pfp list when they had a recent loss that wasn't avenged (except the joke that was jmm-floyd)

[£-4-£]

When's the last time you saw someone at the top of the pfp list when they had a recent loss that wasn't avenged (except the joke that was jmm-floyd)

It was a close loss and against a top opponent in Kessler. Bradley is an over-hyped American. If Froch was a Yank he'd be in the top-10 list.

[The Hammer]

When's the last time you saw someone at the top of the pfp list when they had a recent loss that wasn't avenged (except the joke that was jmm-floyd)

Bernard Hopkins was in the Ring p4p top 5 the week after his loss to Calzaghe.