Comments Thread For: Roach: No Robbery, Pacquiao Beat Marquez Twice

[bojangles1987]

u know wut would have made a worth while article? If Pacquiao's own freaking trainer actually said "I thot Marquez won"

This is just dumb. Wut else do u expect him to say. Its like expecting Floyd's fiance to leave a tweet saying how she thinks Floyd's scared

What's funny is that I wouldn't have been the least bit surprised to hear Roach say something like that. I'm a little disappointed that he sided with Pacquiao.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Pacquiao dropped JMM 3 times and only left with a draw. Tells you all you need to know.


Oh and Ronnie scored the second fight for JMM. Tells you all you need to know.

[-Kev-]

the 2nd fight should have gone to jmm. even donaire thought pac lost that fight.

That's an understatement.

- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
- Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez

[puga]

the right man won..........had jmm not kissed the canvass, he would have a case......piss drinker should just stfu already coz he's getting another shot...he should thank pac.......

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

That's an understatement.

- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
- Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez

You still can't call it a robbery though. I think fans get confused between robberies and bad decisions or close decisions. I thought the second fight was a very close fight but I also had JMM winning.

A robbery was Sturm v DLH, Trinidad v DLH, Whitaker v Chavez......those were robberies. This one was just a close fight that could have gone either way.

[komandante]

I'm with Roach on this one. It's very clear and Burt Clements has admitted that he made a mistake the reason why Marquez salvage a draw, retained his title and avoided Pac for 4 years. The second fight, although Marquez had won more rounds it was very close and could go either way, but then the knockdown make the difference, 10th round should be 10-8 Pacquiao.

[komandante]

You still can't call it a robbery though. I think fans get confused between robberies and bad decisions or close decisions. I thought the second fight was a very close fight but I also had JMM winning.

A robbery was Sturm v DLH, Trinidad v DLH, Whitaker v Chavez......those were robberies. This one was just a close fight that could have gone either way.

agree so Mexicans should just stop ranting. Margarito did that as a mexican, but guess what he's now a damage goods.

[BoZz]

the 3rd fight will have no meaning forget it.

the first two fights were good because both men were at the same comfortable weight which won't be the case in the 3rd fight,one man is gonna have all the advantages which makes the fight worth less just like the other 7 arum has staged for him.

[BoZz]

to me JMM is the true warrior..way greater than pac..he stayed in his natural division and fought people with equal strength and speed..while pac was listening to arum and made easy cash by fighting over the hill fighters at a weight which only suited him..piss weak mate.

[ramses07]

roach needs to make up his mind on these fights. He stated in other interviews that both fights couldve gone the other way. and he also stated he didnt argue with the draw.