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  • Frogs!
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    #61
    Originally posted by Jack Napier
    no, he lost to Castillo already
    Pac would beat him
    Martinez would beat him
    Floyd beats Khan though
    according to davis, this opinion has no merit since floyd clearly won the rematch.

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    • JM1
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      #62
      Originally posted by Sdn18162
      The only three boxers i see giving Mayweather a possible loss is Pacman,Sergio Martinez and Amir Khan.Out of these 3 who has the best chance relistically if they fought?
      amir khan? why?

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      • deejd
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        #63
        Originally posted by Frogs!
        the answer to your question has no bearing on this issue.
        You still didn't answer the question and actually, it does... since Mayweather-Castillo I was a controversial decision.

        So, was the outcome of Lewis-Rahman I controversial?

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        • lx!!
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          #64
          Hard to say since he's always on vacation.

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            #65
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            Seeing how Pacquiao reacted to Marquez and Mosley's back peddeling, becoming "stiff legged", I don't think he beats Mayweather. If Mayweather was a come forward fighter with no defense or good counterpunching, Pacquiao decisions him.

            Amir Khan didn't look impressive against McCloskey who used just a bit of defense but what was still flawed in which his counterpunching was almost non-existent. But he did make Khan miss a lot with the little head movement and defense he used.

            Martinez, being big, having good handspeed, moves well, has good power, lacks great defense as I saw Pavlik and Williams hit him at will and they are just workrate fighters but their accuracy sucks. Dzinzuruk also caught Martinez any time he threw punches which was rare.

            Martinez definitely has the better chance out of those 3.

            To be completely honest, I can see Paul Williams giving Mayweather the most hell out of those 4 fighters. I don't know why, maybe it's his work rate and long arms. I can see Mayweather giving Williams trouble with counterpunching and defense, and I see Williams giving Mayweather trouble with workrate and reach. Remember Mayweather does have Martinez type power, so he can't do to Williams what Martinez did.

            It's close to the way I see it.

            It's though hard to count Manny out. Don't make 1 fight (Mosley) where he actually won every round deceive you. Manny and Mosley were hitting gloves like they were sparring buddies. With Floyd, I don't see that happening.

            Khan has potential but is not ready yet. He still needs a bit more to work on and also needs to move up to 147.

            Martinez has the offense to give Floyd lots of problems. He sometimes fights in spurts but even his spurts are still at a higher work-rate than Floyd and Floyd would be very cautious against Martinez. Martinez is bigger, a southpaw, and is very good overall. Not good for Floyd!

            Williams can outwork and out pressure Floyd to a win. Williams will have a size advantage that would make Floyd's defense less effective. Williams defensive problems may not be as much of a problem since Floyd is not Cintron nor Martinez when it comes to punching power but he still needs to be careful to not get hit with the "perfect" punch. Still I suggest Williams work on his DEFENSE!

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            • Carpe Diem
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              #66
              If Hopkins were a WW, I'd give him the best chance to beat Floyd. He'd make it an ugly fight and wouldn't fall for some of Floyd's tricks. He'd pin Floyd against the rope, throw flurry of punches, and then clinch.

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              • Frogs!
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                #67
                Originally posted by davis828
                You still didn't answer the question and actually, it does... since Mayweather-Castillo I was a controversial decision.

                So, was the outcome of Lewis-Rahman I controversial?
                like i stated so many times previously...

                IT DOESN'T ****IN MATTER.

                how an individual interprets a decision or any outcome, controversial or otherwise has no bearing on how they will perceive any succeeding fights between those 2 same fighters.

                cause if they did, they'll be classified as idiots such as yourself.

                is that a clear enough answer for you?

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                • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                  #68
                  Floyd would beat all 3 with relative ease. Hes lightyears abover them talent wise.

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                  • deejd
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Frogs!
                    whether it was controversial or the other guy got ktfo in the 1st min doesn't make it relative to a rematch or rematches after the fact.
                    Like I said... most who watched PWill-Martinez I, myself included, felt Martinez won. In the rematch, it was clear who was the better fighter.

                    What you're trying to do is use a bad example like Lewis-Rahman where there was nothing controversial at all in the initial meeting between the two. It's almost like using PWill-Quintana I to back your argument (which is another bad example) when it was clear that Quintana won the first fight even though he got slaughtered in the second.

                    My point is that if Castillo really won the first fight with Mayweather, the second one would've showed how legit he was in the first fight, but, even though the scores were closer in the rematch, Mayweather made it look a lot easier and more decisive than the first fight.
                    Last edited by deejd; 05-30-2011, 11:14 PM.

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                    • deejd
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Frogs!
                      like i stated so many times previously...

                      IT DOESN'T ****IN MATTER.

                      how an individual interprets a decision or any outcome, controversial or otherwise has no bearing on how they will perceive any succeeding fights between those 2 same fighters.

                      cause if they did, they'll be classified as idiots such as yourself.

                      is that a clear enough answer for you?
                      You still didn't answer...

                      Was the Lewis-Rahman I fight controversial or not? Yes or no?

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