Teddy Atlas wrong about Henry Armstrong, Manny Pacquiao is more impressive

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Yeah Im lost.

When did Pac defend his WW title 18 times?

When did Manny hold the Lightweight, Featherweight and Welterweight championships. Key word Championships...not a belt out of 5...THE belt in all 3 of those classes?

When was Manny's 27 fight KO streak?

Does Manny have wins over 10 HOFamers?

When is the last time Manny went to middleweight and tossed a strong legit champ around the ring like a rag doll?

Did Pac jump straight from FW to WW and dominate a long reigning HOFamer?

Can you put Pac as a Top 10 ATG fighter in 3 divisions?


What the heck did I miss. Please dont ever compare him to Henry. The only thing they have in common is that they were both professional boxers.

[jjbj2]

This crap again I thought we ran all these cats off NSB already.

Armstrong is 100lightyears ahead of Pac. Are you really talking about Clottey, Cotto, and Cheatto like they are HOF? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha!!

Miguel Angel Cotto is a Hall of Fame boxer. He is one of the few Puerto Rican fighters to win 3 championships in 3 weight classes. His run at the Junior Welterweight cannot be laughed at. His run at the Welterweight is something to be proud of if you are a Puerto Rican. He fought the Top 5 fighters of that division in a span of 3 years. Sugar Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito, Joshua Clottey, and Emmanuel Pacquiao were all former champions. Now, he is making history in the Junior Middleweight division. Honestly, his career is not protected he fought everyone Paulie Malignaggi (former IBF champion), Zab Judah (former Lineal champion), and etc.

Marco Antonio Margarito regardless of controversy. He built a great run in the Welterweight division. If you are a Mexican you should be proud of the man who stood for countless years winning and sometimes losing the big fights in the Welterweight division which not many Mexicans achieved. Funny, the most popular Mexican boxer Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. made it as far as the Junior Welterweight division. Never won a title higher than the mentioned division.

Joshua Clottey a Ghana boxer who is not as popular as Azumah Nelson made enough noise to be recognized as one of the most dangerous Welterweights even being listed as a Top 10 to Top 5 since 2005. Unpopular and not as talented he still won a title and fought everyone from Zab Judah, Diego Corrales, Carlos Baldomir (1999), Miguel Cotto, and Antonio Margarito.

The last two boxers may not be Hall of Fame caliber. And they were never mentioned as such but as opponents they were legitimate. If they were such easy opponents how come Sergio Martinez do not want to challenge Antonio Margarito again at 154 lbs. Surely, with Mexican and Mexican-American support the whole stadium in Las Vegas will echo with shouts and cheers. The PPV numbers will be decent since Antonio Margarito can do 200,000 buys.

Yea, I think the fighters today can hang against the fighters of the old. We don't call the greats of today just because they won one fight: We call them greats because they have proven themselves numerous times as the best fighters of their respective division or divisions. Deal with it. Michael Jordan didn't win a championship from 1985 to 1992 because of tough competitions. So, when those tough competitions retired like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and others then Jordan was able to win championships. So, can I **** on Jordan now? Also, Kobe Bryant is better than Jordan since he won 3 championships before his 23rd birthday. Dwyane Wade is better than Scottie because he won his 1st championship at the age of 24. So, suck it.

[joelab75]

Haters cant believe none of any races in boxing can do what Pac has done. Its all about race. If u think otherwise you are an idiot. Cant accept the fact that Pac was not just winning and dominating but Destroying and Scaring fellow boxers inside the ring. Pac kill Floyd and he knows that. Once that happen you all haters will make another excuses. Henry Armstrong had nothng compare to Pac. Pac hit armstrong and he would be in a survival mode..armstrong cant hurt pac. you haters cant accept the fact that Pac is better that black, white, mexican atg's. Only Pac scares his opponents in the HISTORY of BOXING. Another FACTS.

[IronDanHamza]

What is that after Pac beat Cotto? Im just saying many people go on record saying they think Pac is top 5. Dont assume they are all newbies, *******s or whatever you call it, or in a minority.

You are using the word "many" which is quite the overstatment.

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah Im lost.

When did Pac defend his WW title 18 times?

When did Manny hold the Lightweight, Featherweight and Welterweight championships. Key word Championships...not a belt out of 5...THE belt in all 3 of those classes?

When was Manny's 27 fight KO streak?

Does Manny have wins over 10 HOFamers?

When is the last time Manny went to middleweight and tossed a strong legit champ around the ring like a rag doll?

Did Pac jump straight from FW to WW and dominate a long reigning HOFamer?

Can you put Pac as a Top 10 ATG fighter in 3 divisions?


What the heck did I miss. Please dont ever compare him to Henry. The only thing they have in common is that they were both professional boxers.

He beat 10 HOF'ers but he has wins over HOF oppoents on 13 occasions.

He also held the Lineage in those 3 divisons at the same time.

Henry Armstrong is one of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

He beat 10 HOF'ers but he has wins over HOF oppoents on 13 occasions.

He also held the Lineage in those 3 divisons at the same time.

Henry Armstrong is one of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport.

I just dont see how Pac can be Top 5.


If Pac is Top 5. I always ask then who the heck is 6th? Benny leonard? Joe Louis? Ali?


Its a joke bro.

[Larry the boss]

Yeah Im lost.

When did Pac defend his WW title 18 times?

When did Manny hold the Lightweight, Featherweight and Welterweight championships. Key word Championships...not a belt out of 5...THE belt in all 3 of those classes?

When was Manny's 27 fight KO streak?

Does Manny have wins over 10 HOFamers?

When is the last time Manny went to middleweight and tossed a strong legit champ around the ring like a rag doll?

Did Pac jump straight from FW to WW and dominate a long reigning HOFamer?

Can you put Pac as a Top 10 ATG fighter in 3 divisions?


What the heck did I miss. Please dont ever compare him to Henry. The only thing they have in common is that they were both professional boxers.

[Wazaa..]

I just dont see how Pac can be Top 5.


If Pac is Top 5. I always ask then who the heck is 6th? Benny leonard? Joe Louis? Ali?


Its a joke bro.

pac beat David Diaz.ss!111

STFU hatur.

[IronDanHamza]

I just dont see how Pac can be Top 5.


If Pac is Top 5. I always ask then who the heck is 6th? Benny leonard? Joe Louis? Ali?


Its a joke bro.

I don't see how he's Top 20.

I personally wouldn't have him in the Top 30.

Between 35-45 is most likely where I would place him if he were to retire today.

Beating Mayweather in impressive fashion and maybe a few other good wins would drastically enhance that, though.

[Wazaa..]

I don't see how he's Top 20.

I personally wouldn't have him in the Top 30.

Between 35-45 is most likely where I would place him if he were to retire today.

Beating Mayweather in impressive fashion and maybe a few other good wins would drastically enhance that, though.

too high imo.

Im not sure he belongs from 50 -100 tbh. He hasn't beaten anyone in their prime since Barrera.

All his opponents are scientifically picked by Arum to ensure he can win. His whole career after JMM 2 is a mirage.