TO eveyone using fight night weights to justify jmm-manny

[puga]

did you give him credit for that??

why should i?....he beat a way smaller man that cant beat bigger fighters...

[hypodermical]

did you do that for floyd-jmm???the same ones justifying jmm-manny..****ted on floyd-jmm..i have no issue with manny-jmm but i also had no issue with floyd-jmm......KEEP IT REAL

and vice versa all the people ****ting on manny-jmm were ya'll ****ting on floyd-jmm??or were you saying THE KINGS BACK

WTF, are you serious, do you really not get it? let me explain.

Floyd VS JMM - 144 limit
fight night: floyd weighed in officially at 146 then at fight night was OBVIOUSLY EVEN HEAVIER at least 5 lbs AT LEAST, while jmm was at around 141

Pac VS JMM 2 - 130 limit
fight night: Pac was at 145, JMM was at 141

Pac VS JMM 3 -144 limit
fight night: IT WILL BE IDENTICAL TO Pac VS JMM 2 !!!

do you not see the difference????

As you can see, JMM does not need to do anything differently than he did for their last fight. Pac will weigh the same, the difference is Pac won't have to cut weight. And why the hell should he.

[MELLY-MEL...]

yeah it may be partial bs Larry, but at the same token pbf did not do himself any favors by coming in over the agreed limit, plus not allowing a fight night weight. works both ways.

[vacon04]

As I said in the other thread not because they weight the same on fight night they have the same body composition.

Pacquiao weighting 145 pounds and being a WW for some time is used to train to make 145. He's able to pack on some more muscle mass and he's stronger than JMM.

Marquez trains to be 135 for the weight in, that means that he can't get much more muscle mass because then he wouldn't be able to make the 135 weight.

So now the fight is at 144 CW. Yeah yeah right now they're the same at fight night, but Pacquiao has more muscle mass than JMM and has retained speed because his body is used to fight at 144.
Now, if JMM does his same training regime, he's going to weight almost the same as Pacquiao on fight night, however he's giving too much strenght advantage to Manny, so he NEEDS to gain more muscle mass and be a little heavier in order to match Manny's strenght. However, he's going to lose some speed, and that's what Manny is counting on. It would be a completely different story if JMM would've fought at WW for the last lets say 3 or 4 fights. In that case he would have more muscle mass and strenght, and he would be a little bit slower than in LW, but way faster than right now that he's trying to get to a 144 limit because his body would be used to carry all that weight and he could train for speed. Right now he can't really train for a lot of speed, he needs to be stronger or he wouldn't be able to hurt Manny at 144.

[G-DOGS]

Floyd is about 10 pounds heavier than Manny on fight night, and he is fighting Marquez at 144, not 147.

[TintaBoricua]

it seems ya'll justify everything manny does and **** on floyd for the same thing..and *****s ya'll justify floyd fighting jmm and now you're ****ting on manny for it **** is ya'lls issue??

Larry, I can't deny that Floyd shutting out JMM was impressive (no one had ever done that). People also criticize Floyd for not knocking Márquez out. Márquez has never been stopped and Mayweather isn't known as a big puncher, add to the fact that he's a safety-first fighter.

My only gripe with that fight is that Mayweather didn't even bother coming in at the contracted 144 and dissed Márquez. Again, great feats by Floyd, but that was not good.

I don't have a problem with JMM-Pacquiao either. The fight night weight will not be more than 4-5 pounds apart.

The problem in this comparison between JMM-PBF and JMM-Pac is that WE DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH Mayweather weighed on fight night, although he probably didn't rehydrate much since he was allowed to come in over the contracted the weight limit.

I'm probably one of the guys that tend to keep things in perspective and don't judge Mayweather so quickly, but he gets a lot of unnecessary criticism, doesn't he?

[Larry the boss]

Bump........................

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

No. Most Floyd stans (including yourself if I'm not mistaken), called it a mega p4p battle between number 1 and 2 at the same time trying to justify the fight by saying Floyd was a 'small welterweight' LMAO.

You're full of it, as usual. Most Floyd fans considered the fight a glorified tune-up, which is what it was.

[Las Vegas,]

Doesn't matter what weight they're at. JMM will give Poochie problems. Tons of problems. Real talk.

[Discipline]

I'm a Floyd fan, but was rooting for Marquez to win.