Fighters like Leonard and Duran woud've had no problem fighting Sergio Martinez

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Maybe but I think the both of them would've been chompin at the bit to fight Sergio. Some people and the media discuss Mayweather and Pacquiao like they're on that level, which is ridiculous.

well Ray and Floyd have the same retirement tendencies

[-MAKAVELLI-]

leonard did have a detached retina, though.

and Floyd has a detached testicle...same ****

[Chadmazing]

Horrendous post.

Leonard began at 147. Duran began at 135. Mayweather began at 130. Pacquiao began at 106 but his first "run" at a weight class was 122.

Figure out why fighting at 160 pounds was an ability for the first two fighters and a bit ridiculous for the last two. Unfortunately, can't really say Mayweather ever showed extreme guys with an opponent choice but his going up to 154 is no more different than Leonard or Duran going to 160 than simply who the opponent was. They are no more different than Manny Pacquiao having one fight at 135 pounds then jumping two weights to fight a guy coming down in weight (Pac has no control over if Oscar comes in shape or prepared so end it there... for all he knew Oscar was going to outweigh him 20 pounds and he still signed on).

[Left Hook Tua]

at the end of the day lenard moved up & faced all challenges......look at the heart blood & guts that he showed against tommy hearns.....I don't think pac or mayweather beats a welterweight tommy hearns (especially pac)

get lost you ret@rd.

hey ******.

they were in the same weight class when he fought hearns.

they were welterweights. leonard didn't have to move up to fight him.


check out how big hearns is and compare him to pacquiao and floyd.

pacquiao and floyd have the built of featherweights and lightweights.

hell duran is bigger than either and duran was tiny compared to hearns.

[Left Hook Tua]

leonard did have a detached retina, though.

leave me alone.

i haven't had a good ray rant in a while.

[$tate of Mind]

man leonard was being a ***** about fighting hagler.

fruit delayed that **** until he thought hagler was past it.

and even then fought like a girl.

Come on man, Leonard fought Hagler coming off a two or three year retirement. Leonard even fought a young beast in Terry Norris. Anybody who fights a young, undefeated, and prime Thomas Hearns could never be a b1tch. You must have Leonard mistaken for Hector Camacho.

[Left Hook Tua]

giant welterweight dancing and running away from a older , smaller , past it lightweight.

what a puss leonard is.

[Left Hook Tua]

Come on man, Leonard fought Hagler coming off a two or three year retirement. Leonard even fought a young beast in Terry Norris. Anybody who fights a young, undefeated, and prime Thomas Hearns could never be a b1tch. You must have Leonard mistaken for Hector Camacho.

man , he chose to go on that retirement.

he feared the marvelous one.

don't blame him.

hagler was just superior.

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

Taking a loss nowadays is less acceptible for some reason, maybe its because they fight alot less than the old school cats. Probably has something to do with guys making so much more money now too

[-MAKAVELLI-]

man , he chose to go on that retirement.

he feared the marvelous one.

don't blame him.

hagler was just superior.

bet you if Marvin looked super sharp against Mugabi, Ray woulda stayed retired