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  • MarkMiner
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    #51
    Chad Dawson not known for his power so I like B Hop in 12. Dirty tactics will be too much for Dawson to stay focus.

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    • dans
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      #52
      Originally posted by _Hisoka
      The fact that Dawson goes 30 seconds without punching/ he's as passive as they come, Hopkins can win. Not all that excited about it but it's a fight that needs to happen in the LHW division.
      That's actually not true. Dawson appears to be passive because of body language, but he's really not.

      Hopkins threw 409 punches against Pascal the second time and Dawson threw 620 against Diaconu. Even when he lost to Pascal (in 11 rounds), he still threw more than Bernard did against Pascal.

      I'm not saying Dawson is exciting, but it isn't true that he's not an active fighter.

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        #53
        Originally posted by americanbot
        you guys are delirious. what part of BUTE WILL NOT FIGHT A LIVE FIGHTER DON'T YOU GET?

        bute will NOT fight a challenge. bute has had countless opportunities to fight a challenge but he refuses. you can't make a guy fight someone that he doesn't want to fight. jesus ****.
        Maybe so, but I'd still rather B-Hop vs. Bute THEN B-Hop vs. Dawson after.

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        • dans
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          #54
          Hopkins had trouble with Pascal's speed, but because Pascal is wreckless and leaves himself open a lot, Hopkins was able to take advantage and outweigh that speed with smart aggression and good defense.

          Dawson is faster than Pascal IMO and has a much better defense. He's not going to leave himself open like Pascal did against Hopkins.

          I have a lot of respect for Hopkins, but if I had to guess, I would say Dawson wins a close decision.

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            #55
            Originally posted by dans
            That's actually not true. Dawson appears to be passive because of body language, but he's really not.

            Hopkins threw 409 punches against Pascal the second time and Dawson threw 620 against Diaconu. Even when he lost to Pascal (in 11 rounds), he still threw more than Bernard did against Pascal.

            I'm not saying Dawson is exciting, but it isn't true that he's not an active fighter.
            That's interesting, I don't like his body language either, he tends to get lazy, but interesting nonetheless. I say that because thats not what I've seen from him, I find him extremely frustrating to watch at times. I remember in so many instances where he stood in front of Pascal and only stared at him, I mean literally.

            B-Hop may not be throwing the same amount of punches as Dawson, but he's always working, looking to set his opponent up. Doesn't necessarily have to be with constantly throwing punches. With Dawson, it's almost like he forgets he's fighting. Like he's saying "Where am I?". He be looking lost, remember when he had Pascal hurt with the uppercut?

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            • LeadUppercut
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              #56
              Originally posted by JBell11
              Geez....it took him about 5 years to even look into the direction of Dawson.

              Anway, it will be a good fight, but in my opinion, I think Dawson's age, speed, and skill will be too much for Hopkins.

              I think if this fight happened 5 or 6 years ago I'd say that Hopkins would have beaten a greener Dawson.
              K, but I would like you to remember that you said that

              Coz they all said that about Pascal, and Pavlik, and Wright, and Tarver..... I just see Dawson being added to that list, so give the old man his props when it happens.

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              • LeadUppercut
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                #57
                Originally posted by dans
                Hopkins had trouble with Pascal's speed, but because Pascal is wreckless and leaves himself open a lot, Hopkins was able to take advantage and outweigh that speed with smart aggression and good defense.

                Dawson is faster than Pascal IMO and has a much better defense. He's not going to leave himself open like Pascal did against Hopkins.

                I have a lot of respect for Hopkins, but if I had to guess, I would say Dawson wins a close decision.
                Maybe, but I think that Dawson could get knocked off his game and dragged into deep water, and one way or the other, he will drown. If he thought that the limited Pascal gave him problems, lets see how he goes against a thinking fighter who happens to be an old master.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by LeadUppercut
                  Maybe, but I think that Dawson could get knocked off his game and dragged into deep water, and one way or the other, he will drown. If he thought that the limited Pascal gave him problems, lets see how he goes against a thinking fighter who happens to be an old master.

                  Styles make fights. Pascal has a higher work-rate than Hopkins and has an unorthodox boxing style that bothered Dawson. Hopkins is more of a traditional boxer who is 46 years old, and has the work-rate of a grandpa. He may put Dawson in deep waters, but I doubt it.
                  Last edited by Boxingwizard; 05-28-2011, 03:02 AM.

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                  • Pinoy4ever
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                    #59
                    It's not going to be an exciting fight like with Jean Pascal but it needs to happen.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Boxingwizard
                      Styles make fights. Pascal..... has an unorthodox boxing style that bothered Dawson.
                      But that is my point exactly, if Dawson couldnt figure out the limited Pascal, then Hopkins is going to give him fits.

                      Originally posted by Boxingwizard
                      Hopkins is more of a traditional boxer who is 46 years old, and has the work-rate of a grandpa.
                      No, Hopkins is a boxing master, a real thinking fighter, and his workrate was acceptable against Pascal, especially in light of how that fight played out.

                      And, you can expect Dawson's workrate to drop, just as Pascal's did.....



                      The point is, if Hopkins starts to get outworked, he will adjust.

                      Hopkins is my boy, but I will be honest here, I think that Bernard saw things in Dawson's last two fights, and that he already likely has a plan to beat him, otherwise..... we may not see that fight.

                      I am not saying that Hopkins cherry-picks, just that the world needs to smarten up. When Hopkins goes for someone, and the whole world sits back and says "whoah, hold up, that the....." and yet Hopkins looks like he has things under control..... then Hopkins knows something that you dont.

                      I will be betting on Hopkins in that fight if anyone is interested.

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