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  • Steak
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    #111
    this is a good matchup, and I hope it happens.

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    • Bee Keepz
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      #112
      Originally posted by Chopper417
      If Floyd in fact does face Ortiz it would be more legit than any of Manny's last 7 fights.


      Come on, now. It's a good fight, but that's reaching. Counter was there all night for Berto, he was just on dead legs.

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        #113
        Originally posted by OMGLadyGaga
        there ya go
        haha thanks homie

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          #114
          Originally posted by OMGLadyGaga
          there ya go
          thats a bit silly, Pacquiao has fought Hatton and Cotto in his last 7 fights.

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          • Chopper417
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            #115
            Originally posted by Bee Keepz


            Come on, now. It's a good fight, but that's reaching. Counter was there all night for Berto, he was just on dead legs.

            Look man, I'm being serious. I'm a Floyd fan but a boxing fan first and what Bob Arum has done with this Pac circus is completely ridiculous. I mean we can go through each of Manny's last 7 fights individually if you want, but I'll tell u right now the only one that is even close is Cotto, who obviously they had to have a ctach weight for even though manny had already fought DLH at the WW limit, interesting. David Diaz=complete joke, literally/DLH=biggest scam fight in boxing history period, DLH hadn't made WW in 10 years, weighed less than Pac on fight night, COMPLETE JOKE/Hatton-already got KO'd by Floyd and imho lost to Callozo/Cotto-completely legit fight, but of course they have to F**k around and stack the deck and make it at a catchweight, unreal/Clottey-do i really have to justify this, someone please tell me his best win, showed up for a paycheck, Top Rank in House fight/Margs-proven cheater, looked decent at best in his return fight, Top Rank in house fight, did literally NOTHING to deserve that fight besides being under Top Rank/Mosley-was too good for Pac to fight before Floyd and that comes str8 from Roach, got punished by Floyd, Drew with dynamic hall of famer Sergi Mora (clearly joking), showed up for one last pay check and lost a lot of fans in the process.

            Don't get me wrong, I respect Pac and he is certainly an ATG, but his last 7 fights are a 3 ring Top Rank circus. His career was made under 140 lbs.

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              #116
              Originally posted by Chopper417
              Look man, I'm being serious. I'm a Floyd fan but a boxing fan first and what Bob Arum has done with this Pac circus is completely ridiculous. I mean we can go through each of Manny's last 7 fights individually if you want, but I'll tell u right now the only one that is even close is Cotto, who obviously they had to have a ctach weight for even though manny had already fought DLH at the WW limit, interesting. David Diaz=complete joke, literally/DLH=biggest scam fight in boxing history period, DLH hadn't made WW in 10 years, weighed less than Pac on fight night, COMPLETE JOKE/Hatton-already got KO'd by Floyd and imho lost to Callozo/Cotto-completely legit fight, but of course they have to F**k around and stack the deck and make it at a catchweight, unreal/Clottey-do i really have to justify this, someone please tell me his best win, showed up for a paycheck, Top Rank in House fight/Margs-proven cheater, looked decent at best in his return fight, Top Rank in house fight, did literally NOTHING to deserve that fight besides being under Top Rank/Mosley-was too good for Pac to fight before Floyd and that comes str8 from Roach, got punished by Floyd, Drew with dynamic hall of famer Sergi Mora (clearly joking), showed up for one last pay check and lost a lot of fans in the process.

              Don't get me wrong, I respect Pac and he is certainly an ATG, but his last 7 fights are a 3 ring Top Rank circus. His career was made under 140 lbs.


              You're a Floyd fan, I'm just gonna leave it at that.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Bee Keepz


                You're a Floyd fan, I'm just gonna leave it at that.
                Easy man, like I said I have the utmost respect for Manny and I have him ranked significantly higher all time than Floyd. His resume at this point is absolutely better than Floyd's. I like Manny as a person and as a fighter, but I do think that his team are absolute pieces of s**t and that Bob Arum is arguably the biggest scum bag in boxing history. If you disagree with any of that then we just have a difference in opinions. IMHO Manny's career was made under 140lbs, and his wins over Barrera, Morales, and Marquez were career defining victories that could certainly be considered better than anything on Floyd's resume.

                But if you want to sit here and tell me that his last 7 fights are legit then I'm sorry homie, Bob Arum has pulled the wool over your eyes.

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                  #118
                  Floyd doesn't want to fight anymore.

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                    #119
                    Awesome. Once Floyd beats Ortiz all we need to do is wait for Manny to beat Ortiz and then it's finally on!

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Chopper417
                      Easy man, like I said I have the utmost respect for Manny and I have him ranked significantly higher all time than Floyd. His resume at this point is absolutely better than Floyd's. I like Manny as a person and as a fighter, but I do think that his team are absolute pieces of s**t and that Bob Arum is arguably the biggest scum bag in boxing history. If you disagree with any of that then we just have a difference in opinions. IMHO Manny's career was made under 140lbs, and his wins over Barrera, Morales, and Marquez were career defining victories that could certainly be considered better than anything on Floyd's resume.

                      But if you want to sit here and tell me that his last 7 fights are legit then I'm sorry homie, Bob Arum has pulled the wool over your eyes.
                      I completely disagree. Winning at welterweight made Pacquiao who he is now. Beating De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley the way he did, makes him who he is now.

                      No one, was saying Pacquiao was on 'roids when he beat the "Three Amigos", they're saying he's on 'roids because of what he's doing now.

                      Ask any flyweight how easy it is to come up and win a welterweight title. Tell me how many former flyweights out there are beating legit former welterweight champions.

                      Just listen to Floyd Snr. @ 12:40

                      "It ain't never happen in history of boxing...when something never happens...if sumthin...if sumthin...somebody need to get in to put a check on it."

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