Who will be remembered as the greater fighter: Manny Pacquiao or Bernard Hopkins?

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  • Roja's480
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    #71
    casual fans say pac
    boxing fans say bhop

    popularity its pac
    going off resume its bhop

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    • hugh grant
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      #72
      Originally posted by (ROY)
      casual fans say pac
      boxing fans say bhop

      popularity its pac
      going off resume its bhop
      What on earth are you talking about? BH lost to every great fighter he fought. He lost to JC, RJJ, not to mention JT. Pac would outclass the pavliks, Tarvers, Pascals of this world and stop them mid rounds.

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      • Hewito
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        #73
        Originally posted by PACATTACK
        hatton probably will, but he shouldn't.. his resume is kind of overrated.
        that is so true..you can keep haye!!

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        • JayDee2700
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          #74
          Originally posted by hugh grant

          Pacs resume is superior to BHs. BH hasnt got anyone as good as Barrera or Morales, or JMM. Tito and DLH are good, but they had to step up to BHs weight and they are smallish guys. Than Pac beats guys like Cotto and Margarito and these guys are better than the Pascals easiliy


          Ur crazy if you think Pacs resume is superior to BHop's there about the same if anything BHope resume is a little better then Manny's. An this argument that manny had to move up aint nothin but smoke and mirrors, cause he used the catch w8 to give him a advantage, Manny's resume need a little * in it. Both men are great fighter but the reason I favor BHOP in this is b/c he doesnt posses the athletic ability that Manny has, but has face far better athletic compitition then Manny has in his career, an if you deny this your crazy cause Prime Roy>>>>>>>>>>>>>any1 manny has fought in his career and tho BHop lost he made Roy work for that win, N ill put a prime ODLH, and prime tito= to prime Barrera & Morales. Prime JT= or > Prime JMM. BHop has beatin a prime kelley p. and Pascal which IMHO are better wins then Manny's last 6 wins b/c it's been nothin but old, broken, w8 drained fighters.

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          • Motofan
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            #75
            Honestly it remains to be seen. It depends on who Hopkins beats, and if Manny will fight someone considered an actual threat before he retires. If Hopkins goes on to beat Bute, Ward ect, then he has a case. If Manny keeps fighting easy, past prime fighters, then there will always be that question as to how good he really was. Was he all matchmaking? Media hype for a sport that needed a star? Here is how I see it. If Manny were to fight and beat someone who nobody can discredit, who everyone considers a top level guy, then how could you not consider him better? But if he continues to cherry pick, or fights and gets schooled by say Floyd or Sergio, then he will be seen as the product of matchmaking and media hype. So as much as some of you hate to hear it, how history will view Manny is still very much up in the air.

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            • straightleft
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              #76
              Three days ago, these *****s were still sucking Floyd finger and nobody, not any of them talking about Hopkins. They didn't even put Hopkins in their own p4p top 20 list let alone they considered Hopkins resume was comparable to Pac resume otherwise we should heard them talking about Hopkins is far greater than Pac for a very long time. Now this very interesting, when Hopkins beat a good fighter but not great nor hof material Pascal, they figure out they have to jump out from Floyd sinking boat. Now, the rest is history. They found another finger to suck on.
              Last edited by straightleft; 05-23-2011, 08:01 PM.

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              • -EX-
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                #77
                You can't answer this question when neither have them has hung up the gloves...and time has to surpass to see how people remember a fighter...

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                • Ragnar Lothbrok
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by LarryX2011
                  pascal
                  pavlik
                  tarver
                  johnson
                  tito
                  oscar
                  winky

                  20 title defenses

                  3 time linear champ
                  Originally posted by LarryX2011
                  look at his over 40 resume

                  tarver
                  pavlik
                  winky
                  pascal
                  roy jones

                  wow
                  Originally posted by LarryX2011
                  oscar-hof

                  titio-hof

                  winky-hof

                  glenn johnson-most likeyl hof

                  roy jones-hof

                  tarver-most likely hof

                  next question
                  LMFAOOOO, glen johnson is not going to the HOF NEITHER IS TARVER. winky is borderline.

                  Pac has:

                  Marquez 1x
                  Morales 2x
                  Barerra 2x
                  Oscar 1x
                  Shane 1x

                  That's 7 wins vs 5 BONA FIDE HALL OF FAME OPPONENTS. If you add the borderline HOFs (ricky hatton, cotto) that would be 9 wins vs 7 HOFs...

                  Lets do Bernards:

                  Oscar 1x
                  Roy 1x
                  Tito 1x

                  Borderlines winky & tarver.

                  How the **** that even comes close to pac is beyond me.

                  Originally posted by LarryX2011
                  hof on mannys resume
                  barerra
                  morales
                  oscar
                  shane

                  on hopkins

                  oscar
                  roy jones
                  tito
                  winky
                  Lets debunk this ***** propaganda down,

                  Pac 106-147 > Bernard 160-175

                  Pac 4 lineal champ > Bernard 3 lineal champ

                  Pac 3x Ring Mag Fighter of the Year > Bernard 1x Fighter of the Year

                  Pac 1x Ring Mag Knock out of the Year > Bernard -zero

                  Pac Fighter of the Decade > Bernard Not Fighter of the Decade

                  Pac 8 division champ > Bernard 3 division champ.

                  Scoreboard: Pac > Hopkins.

                  Originally posted by LarryX2011
                  and hopkins wasnt ko'd 2 times like manny
                  roberto duran lost by ko 4x. i guess hopkins is greater than duran.

                  wtf happened to you larry? You had a pretty good stretch where you were a pretty decent poster. Now you back to being infected with the FLOIDS virus.





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                  You dont need to be a rocket scientist to figure out what the *****s are doing.

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                  • straightleft
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Motofan
                    Honestly it remains to be seen. It depends on who Hopkins beats, and if Manny will fight someone considered an actual threat before he retires. If Hopkins goes on to beat Bute, Ward ect, then he has a case. If Manny keeps fighting easy, past prime fighters, then there will always be that question as to how good he really was. Was he all matchmaking? Media hype for a sport that needed a star? Here is how I see it. If Manny were to fight and beat someone who nobody can discredit, who everyone considers a top level guy, then how could you not consider him better? But if he continues to cherry pick, or fights and gets schooled by say Floyd or Sergio, then he will be seen as the product of matchmaking and media hype. So as much as some of you hate to hear it, how history will view Manny is still very much up in the air.
                    You right. If Pac who is naturaly lightweight or jr. WW to the max continues fighting top welterweights, his wins againts Sasakul, Ledwaba, Barerra, Morales, Marquez, Hatton, Cotto will turn into dust just like nothing!

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                    • 915angel
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                      #80
                      ohh come on Bernard is just gonna cherry pick now hes goin to fight Nathan Cleverly -_- if he fights BUTE or DAWSON maybe even or FROCH he beats pacquioa on "MY" atg


                      but hes's probb goin to fight Nathan then Beibut Shumenov probb hang em up after that but he is a GREAT fighter



                      Manny's not doin much for me I mean CMON i want to like the guy but he fights a bunch of nobodys fight a victor ortiz or Amir Khan or move up an fight canelo at "154" that or fight mayweather!!

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