What on earth are you talking about? BH lost to every great fighter he fought. He lost to JC, RJJ, not to mention JT. Pac would outclass the pavliks, Tarvers, Pascals of this world and stop them mid rounds.
Pacs resume is superior to BHs. BH hasnt got anyone as good as Barrera or Morales, or JMM. Tito and DLH are good, but they had to step up to BHs weight and they are smallish guys. Than Pac beats guys like Cotto and Margarito and these guys are better than the Pascals easiliy
Ur crazy if you think Pacs resume is superior to BHop's there about the same if anything BHope resume is a little better then Manny's. An this argument that manny had to move up aint nothin but smoke and mirrors, cause he used the catch w8 to give him a advantage, Manny's resume need a little * in it. Both men are great fighter but the reason I favor BHOP in this is b/c he doesnt posses the athletic ability that Manny has, but has face far better athletic compitition then Manny has in his career, an if you deny this your crazy cause Prime Roy>>>>>>>>>>>>>any1 manny has fought in his career and tho BHop lost he made Roy work for that win, N ill put a prime ODLH, and prime tito= to prime Barrera & Morales. Prime JT= or > Prime JMM. BHop has beatin a prime kelley p. and Pascal which IMHO are better wins then Manny's last 6 wins b/c it's been nothin but old, broken, w8 drained fighters.
Honestly it remains to be seen. It depends on who Hopkins beats, and if Manny will fight someone considered an actual threat before he retires. If Hopkins goes on to beat Bute, Ward ect, then he has a case. If Manny keeps fighting easy, past prime fighters, then there will always be that question as to how good he really was. Was he all matchmaking? Media hype for a sport that needed a star? Here is how I see it. If Manny were to fight and beat someone who nobody can discredit, who everyone considers a top level guy, then how could you not consider him better? But if he continues to cherry pick, or fights and gets schooled by say Floyd or Sergio, then he will be seen as the product of matchmaking and media hype. So as much as some of you hate to hear it, how history will view Manny is still very much up in the air.
Three days ago, these *****s were still sucking Floyd finger and nobody, not any of them talking about Hopkins. They didn't even put Hopkins in their own p4p top 20 list let alone they considered Hopkins resume was comparable to Pac resume otherwise we should heard them talking about Hopkins is far greater than Pac for a very long time. Now this very interesting, when Hopkins beat a good fighter but not great nor hof material Pascal, they figure out they have to jump out from Floyd sinking boat. Now, the rest is history. They found another finger to suck on.
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Honestly it remains to be seen. It depends on who Hopkins beats, and if Manny will fight someone considered an actual threat before he retires. If Hopkins goes on to beat Bute, Ward ect, then he has a case. If Manny keeps fighting easy, past prime fighters, then there will always be that question as to how good he really was. Was he all matchmaking? Media hype for a sport that needed a star? Here is how I see it. If Manny were to fight and beat someone who nobody can discredit, who everyone considers a top level guy, then how could you not consider him better? But if he continues to cherry pick, or fights and gets schooled by say Floyd or Sergio, then he will be seen as the product of matchmaking and media hype. So as much as some of you hate to hear it, how history will view Manny is still very much up in the air.
You right. If Pac who is naturaly lightweight or jr. WW to the max continues fighting top welterweights, his wins againts Sasakul, Ledwaba, Barerra, Morales, Marquez, Hatton, Cotto will turn into dust just like nothing!
ohh come on Bernard is just gonna cherry pick now hes goin to fight Nathan Cleverly -_- if he fights BUTE or DAWSON maybe even or FROCH he beats pacquioa on "MY" atg
but hes's probb goin to fight Nathan then Beibut Shumenov probb hang em up after that but he is a GREAT fighter
Manny's not doin much for me I mean CMON i want to like the guy but he fights a bunch of nobodys fight a victor ortiz or Amir Khan or move up an fight canelo at "154" that or fight mayweather!!
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