Hopkins vs Pacquiao OST argument. Why its not the same...

[Haglerwins]

because Hopkins hasn't went up a kazillion weight classes knocking out people bigger and better?

he's only been in two weight classes, declining slowly because of sound boxing fundamentals - he's still battling off fatigue in his fights, not the sign of a juicer to me.

[torious14]

*******s pppppppppppppppppppppp

[Vasyl’s dad]

Basically all of u on the "why is Hopkins accused while Pac is" side r saying Hopkins denied testing PERIOD (nothing to do with any point in the negotiations) so why is it that when Pac denied testing, he is accused, while when Hopkins denied it, he got a pass? Am I right...

Well u didn't take this into consideration...

Just by looking at NSB alone, who r the ones that r absolutely convinced that Pacquiao is on steroids?

*****S - The people who's opinions matter to the absolute MINIMUM. Entirely equal to *******s, unless u r one or the other, in which case, u think being one is better than the other, which just emphasizes how illegitimate their opinions r. Why make threads entitled "So, *****s, howcome.... blah blah blah". Why do u want to know their opinions? Their opinions mean nothing?

Now, what do the boxing fans with legit opinions think about it? They say (on average) "I DON'T THINK HE'S ON ANYTHING, I just think he should take the test if he has nothing to hide"

Do u wanna know why they say that? It's becuz him not taking the test equates to the Pac/Floyd fight not happening...

That's why they want him to take the test, so the Floyd fight will happen. I mean, no one really cares whether or not he takes the test if it didn't matter. Hell, judging by how most people (including the HOF commission) look at SHANE MOSLEY's FACTUALLY illegitimate career, most people probably wouldn't even care if he was on steroids. Boxing fans want to see boxing matches, its as simple as that. And they want Pac to take the test becuz they want Pac to be apart of a specific boxing match that appears to require it.

As oppose to B-Hop's situation, where him not taking a test did not lead to any of his fights not happening (none that I know of). If a special BHop fight against someone like Chad Dawson or whatever gets called off becuz BHop, than it will be similar, but as of now it really isn't.

The only similarity is that 1 fighter asked the other to take OST, and the other fighter said no.... That's all

Side Note: People r saying that Pascal is braver than Floyd becuz he fought anyway without Hopkins taking the test, but THE CONTRACT WAS ALREADY SIGNED, HE HAD NO CHOICE! Who knows what would have happened if he had asked for the testing BEFORE the contracts were signed... BHop may have said yes to the test, or Pascal may have called the fight off if BHop refused...

Anyway, my two-cents... Tell me what u think

This is your problem though, no fight requires it.

One sissy does.

[JDezi4]

Wow, u guys r ****ing ridiculous

[miron_lang]

because Hopkins hasn't went up a kazillion weight classes knocking out people bigger and better?

he's only been in two weight classes, declining slowly because of sound boxing fundamentals - he's still battling off fatigue in his fights, not the sign of a juicer to me.

so McLarnin and Canzoneri are on PEDS?



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http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=482916

[Mr. Philadel]

Basically all of u on the "why is Hopkins accused while Pac is" side r saying Hopkins denied testing PERIOD (nothing to do with any point in the negotiations) so why is it that when Pac denied testing, he is accused, while when Hopkins denied it, he got a pass? Am I right...

Well u didn't take this into consideration...

Just by looking at NSB alone, who r the ones that r absolutely convinced that Pacquiao is on steroids?

*****S - The people who's opinions matter to the absolute MINIMUM. Entirely equal to *******s, unless u r one or the other, in which case, u think being one is better than the other, which just emphasizes how illegitimate their opinions r. Why make threads entitled "So, *****s, howcome.... blah blah blah". Why do u want to know their opinions? Their opinions mean nothing?

Now, what do the boxing fans with legit opinions think about it? They say (on average) "I DON'T THINK HE'S ON ANYTHING, I just think he should take the test if he has nothing to hide"

Do u wanna know why they say that? It's becuz him not taking the test equates to the Pac/Floyd fight not happening...

That's why they want him to take the test, so the Floyd fight will happen. I mean, no one really cares whether or not he takes the test if it didn't matter. Hell, judging by how most people (including the HOF commission) look at SHANE MOSLEY's FACTUALLY illegitimate career, most people probably wouldn't even care if he was on steroids. Boxing fans want to see boxing matches, its as simple as that. And they want Pac to take the test becuz they want Pac to be apart of a specific boxing match that appears to require it.

As oppose to B-Hop's situation, where him not taking a test did not lead to any of his fights not happening (none that I know of). If a special BHop fight against someone like Chad Dawson or whatever gets called off becuz BHop, than it will be similar, but as of now it really isn't.

The only similarity is that 1 fighter asked the other to take OST, and the other fighter said no.... That's all

Side Note: People r saying that Pascal is braver than Floyd becuz he fought anyway without Hopkins taking the test, but THE CONTRACT WAS ALREADY SIGNED, HE HAD NO CHOICE! Who knows what would have happened if he had asked for the testing BEFORE the contracts were signed... BHop may have said yes to the test, or Pascal may have called the fight off if BHop refused...

Anyway, my two-cents... Tell me what u think

[boxingfan_123]

they both should take the test so there's no doubt that they aren't cheating

[Blubba]

Only certain people say Pac is on roids. If there was a chance Hopkins was making as much money as pac in one fight, i think he would take the test.

i doubt it,

why wud u give the biggest ever payday to a man that's been smearing yr name,

i know i wuddnt.

[MaD RoBoT]

under the pretense of upgrading for a better testing, no wonder everybody suddenly gobbles up this but if you try to look under the surface, its simply Floyd trying to stall this fight as long as he can

[JDezi4]

Lmao, I repeat, u guys r all ****ing ridiculous... Some of you r completely off topic, most of u clearly didn't even read the thread...