Just saw Lennox Lewis vs. Oliver McCall 2 the strangest thing in Boxing.

[Left Hook Tua]

Just placed you on ignore for your total lack of honesty and crediblity.

My original question was clearly about a rematch, and you answered about a switch after a retirement. And now you just added more nonsense,

Total disingenuousness.

Still waiting for an honest answer:

[B]When was the last time you heard of a winning trainer switching to the losing fighter for the rematch?[/B] From someone else.

lol

fucking woman.

[nomadman]

I won't speak about the whys and wherefores of the loss, though it seems likely that drug use and severe personal problems were to blame, but I will say that it was this fight that convinced me that McCall had probably the best chin of any fighter in history. He was literally walking around in a daze of his own making, taking flush shots from Lewis and reacting as if they were no more than a minor irritation in his in-ring breakdown. That, and he was never even remotely hurt during his entire career.

Not even Chuvalo has anything on this guy.

[physiker]

I won't speak about the whys and wherefores of the loss, though it seems likely that drug use and severe personal problems were to blame, but I will say that it was this fight that convinced me that McCall had probably the best chin of any fighter in history. He was literally walking around in a daze of his own making, taking flush shots from Lewis and reacting as if they were no more than a minor irritation in his in-ring breakdown. That, and he was never even remotely hurt during his entire career.

Not even Chuvalo has anything on this guy.

Maybe part of this comes from sparring with Tyson for a while?!

[physiker]

He didn't hit him because he was being cautious.. he had no idea what Mccall was doing.. Oliver was acting crazy with his ring antics.... he acted afterwards like he';d done something substantial,, watch Byrd's victory lapdance of Vitali for the magnitude of his W BUT YET we go on & on about Lennox beating every opponent he ever faced when he REALLY didn';t beaT McCALL or Klitschko for that matter... not exactly how he exacted his revenge on Rahman is it. If anything Mccall showed he could manhandle Lewis in that second rd if he chose to.... NOT buying this W!

Good on you.

[Rick Grimes]

Just placed you on ignore for your total lack of honesty and crediblity.

My original question was clearly about a rematch, and you answered about a switch after a retirement. And now you just added more nonsense,

Total disingenuousness.

Still waiting for an honest answer:

[B]When was the last time you heard of a winning trainer switching to the losing fighter for the rematch?[/B] From someone else.

Steward jumped ship straight away and nobody knew there would be a rematch, the rematch only came about 4 fights later and only because Tyson ducked Lewis.

[Southpaw Stinger]

When was the last time you heard of a winning trainer switching to the losing fighter for the rematch?

Real bad on you!

Seems McCall ain't the only one with a drug problem.

[Joeyzagz]

What is it about the second rds with Lewis? Mccall had him running for his life in that rd scared to get hit... even Holy had him going there for a second in there first encounter.. & WE ALL KNOW what happened in the LAST second rd Lewis ever fought...... ummmmm.

-Mccall hits harder than Vitali
-Mccall has a stronger chin than Vitali

Thats what I learned from those two fights.

[paulf]

McCall has come up with a million reasons why he did what he did that night.

When I was down in Miami a few years ago, he told me that he threw the fight because he owed a lot of money to drug dealers and they wanted to bet against him to get their money back (and then some).

Who knows?

[physiker]

McCall has come up with a million reasons why he did what he did that night.

When I was down in Miami a few years ago, he told me that he threw the fight because he owed a lot of money to drug dealers and they wanted to bet against him to get their money back (and then some).

Who knows?

Well, IF you are on the level, that's a kind of confirmation. It was so obvious when he stopped throwing, against someone he KOed with his eyes closed before.

And think how fearless (of Lewis) he was. Not throwing back those last 2 rounds, looking away from Lewis, and he' still there.

And a "crackhead" wouldn't be able to survive against a great HW champion!

Sure seems like a version of a redux of LaMotta/Fox, where he wouldn't go down, but knew he better not win. And what he had to do, as with LaMotta, caused what you saw (his emotional reaction.) [Remember what DeNiro/LaMotta said: "If i don't lose I'm in worse trouble." Or words to that effect.]

A crackhead would not be able to stay in there, while not throwing back.

[Rick Grimes]

Well, IF you are on the level, that's a kind of confirmation. It was so obvious when he stopped throwing, against someone he KOed with his eyes closed before.

And think how fearless (of Lewis) he was. Not throwing back those last 2 rounds, looking away from Lewis, and he' still there.

And a "crackhead" wouldn't be able to survive against a great HW champion!

Sure seems like a version of a redux of LaMotta/Fox, where he wouldn't go down, but knew he better not win. And what he had to do, as with LaMotta, caused what you saw (his emotional reaction.) [Remember what DeNiro/LaMotta said: "If i don't lose I'm in worse trouble." Or words to that effect.]

A crackhead would not be able to stay in there, while not throwing back.

Why would he owe money to drug dealers if he wasn't on drugs?