Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Martinez: Arum Feels Weight Gap is Too Much
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" pac **** all those bum u listed, they werent even competitive "
Guy, are you even aware that you confirmed my point exactly ?
Manny has been fighting old men, faded champions, and bums, since Marquez II.
I agree with you 100%.
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dont talk to me like im fanboy or something, i am not nuthugger like you. manny JMW title is bullsheet but i dont think he fighting margo is bullsheet at all, is a great match-up with great outcome but they shouldn't put a title in that match end of story.
but i know u can think reasonable like me cause you hate manny with all your heart. true manny fight at CW with margo but margo not drained, true the fight use 8oz glove but margo wear it too and he have 17lbs advantage at the fight night, true margo got carreer ending injury but manny got beating too. is about margo size & power vs. manny speed.
And one thing the fight with margo is at 150 lbs CW. nothing wrong with CW.
But you are dreaming about Margarito.
He was NEVER an elite fighter, and likely used loaded wraps at least 3 times.
He has certainly looked like **** since ol man Mosley KHTFO.
When Pac fought him for his JMW title, cheato was nothing more than a faded bum, who could not have beaten any of the top welter's, let alone JMW's.
And catch-weight fights are rubbish.
There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....
* you are not good enough to compete at your opponents natural weight
* you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage
Unlike the Cotto fight, Pacquiao was not attempting to drain cheato, because Margarito is a welter. The 150 catchweight would likely have suited Margarito more than 147.
No, Pacquiao demanded a catch-weight because he was "not good enough to compete at your opponents natural weight"..... 154 is JMW.Comment
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if he's so good why not gain a bit of weight and fight martinez? martinez is not asking for a blood test.Comment
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In that case, I agree with you 100%, Pacquiao should not be required to fight Martinez. Obviously, he would get killed.
But you are dreaming about Margarito.
He was NEVER an elite fighter, and likely used loaded wraps at least 3 times.
He has certainly looked like **** since ol man Mosley KHTFO.
When Pac fought him for his JMW title, cheato was nothing more than a faded bum, who could not have beaten any of the top welter's, let alone JMW's.
And catch-weight fights are rubbish.
There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight..
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* you are not good enough to compete at your opponents natural weight
* you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage
Unlike the Cotto fight, Pacquiao was not attempting to drain cheato, because Margarito is a welter. The 150 catchweight would likely have suited Margarito more than 147.
No, Pacquiao demanded a catch-weight because he was "not good enough
to compete at your opponents natural weight"..... 154 is JMW.
Catchweight is used when a smaller guy fights a bigger opponent.
Case in point, Oscar vs. Hopkins.Comment
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check all the opponents pac floored when they were ranked during their fights , they were all highly ranked, dont blame pac, he took all the top welterweights and they turned out to be bumsComment
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At the other end, Floyd need to step up and stop being scared.
ESPN has called him a COWARD repeatedly.
If he can grow a pair.
A fight with Maravilla will be a good place to star with.Comment
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In that case, I agree with you 100%, Pacquiao should not be required to fight Martinez. Obviously, he would get killed.
But you are dreaming about Margarito.
He was NEVER an elite fighter, and likely used loaded wraps at least 3 times.
He has certainly looked like **** since ol man Mosley KHTFO.
When Pac fought him for his JMW title, cheato was nothing more than a faded bum, who could not have beaten any of the top welter's, let alone JMW's.
And catch-weight fights are rubbish.
There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....
* you are not good enough to compete at your opponents natural weight
* you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage
Unlike the Cotto fight, Pacquiao was not attempting to drain cheato, because Margarito is a welter. The 150 catchweight would likely have suited Margarito more than 147.
No, Pacquiao demanded a catch-weight because he was "not good enough to compete at your opponents natural weight"..... 154 is JMW.
god ***** always make me laugh, i dont understand why ***** always think fighter coming of lose is faded, past prime, shot, old bum. margo is mexican warrior they dont have dirrell mentality.Comment
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Manny was the betting favorite in that fight?
See it's that kind of comment when you hand your a$$ to me, just so I can kick it back to you. Pac was 4-to-1 underdog againts Oscar.
Do me a favor ayt. Don't screw your life with delusional instinct.
No, I do not. The fact is that Pac has not faced a live dog since Marquez, and that point alone confirms that the ATG rating that you have bestowed on Manny is nothing but inept fanboy'ism.
" Oh but Hoya was the favorite in that fight ".....
Fkn bull****, he was not, Manny was the betting favorite in that fight..... NOW, that point is actually completely irrelevant. Hoya cherry-picked Pac in that fight, lets not forget that point..... but that point does not change the fact that Hoya was old, shot, drained, was fighting 9 lbs lower than a weight he had been comfortable in for 7 years, and..... his weight two weeks out, at the weigh-in, and on fight-night, was..... 145/145/145..... END OF STORY.
Pac is NOT an ATG for beating a washed up old guy that even Marquez would have KTFO that night. Not only would Marquez have KTFO Hoya, so would have most of the top JWW's, and all of the top welter's.
Your imagination must work overtime, because you have grouped a collection of good wins over average-good opposition, and made them into an ATG resume'
*** knows how or why you did thatComment
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