Pac would destroy Henry Armstrong and Harry Greb

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  • jrosales13
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    #101
    Originally posted by joelab75
    another idiot who think only boxing is the only sport that athletes never improved. but all others are...you still think armstrong and greb were faster and stronger than Pac? Pac annihilate those guys. i dont care if they can box..Pac annihilate every boxers that can box..
    Well considering that Greb is a natural MW(Perhaps the greatest MW of all time, hell has a case to being the greatest P4P fighter of all time) fought at HW and was avoided by the HW champ I would say yes he was stronger than Pac. How could you say he wasn't? I didn't know Pac was as strong as LHW's now. If that's the case then something tells me is more than white rice that he's taking.

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      #102
      Originally posted by joelab75
      another idiot who think only boxing is the only sport that athletes never improved. but all others are...you still think armstrong and greb were faster and stronger than Pac? Pac annihilate those guys. i dont care if they can box..Pac annihilate every boxers that can box..
      Both of those fighters weren't really considered 'boxers'.

      Harry Greb was a natural Middleweight who out hustled and out muscled Natural, All time great, LightHeavyweights.

      Safe bet he was stronger than Manny Pacquiao.

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        #103
        Originally posted by joelab75
        stop nut hugging old fighters. yeah they were amazing and were very good back in the days. every records in every record books were broken because athletes get better. everyone get stronger and faster. you are ****** if u guys dont believe it. the proof were EVERYWHERE. FACTS
        Which Henry Armstrong record has been broken? He's tied with Fitzsimmons as the only two to hold 3 lineal titles in the original 8 weight-classes and Armstrong holds 19 title lineal WW defenses.

        Joe Louis has what? 25 lineal HW defenses?

        Have these records been broken?

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          #104
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Which Henry Armstrong record has been broken? He's tied with Fitzsimmons as the only two to hold 3 lineal titles in the original 8 weight-classes and Armstrong holds 19 title lineal WW defenses.

          Joe Louis has what? 25 lineal HW defenses?

          Have these records been broken?
          You missed Monzon's 14 defences of the Lineal Middleweight Title.

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            #105
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Both of those fighters weren't really considered 'boxers'.

            Harry Greb was a natural Middleweight who out hustled and out muscled Natural, All time great, LightHeavyweights.

            Safe bet he was stronger than Manny Pacquiao.
            Blasphemy...!!

            How dare you..!

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              #106
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Both of those fighters weren't really considered 'boxers'.

              Harry Greb was a natural Middleweight who out hustled and out muscled Natural, All time great, LightHeavyweights.

              Safe bet he was stronger than Manny Pacquiao.
              I don't think he knows who Armstrong and Greb are. He just know they're old school fighters. So obviously not so good. Because, track and field has evolved so much...

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                #107
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                You missed Monzon's 14 defences of the Lineal Middleweight Title.

                How could I have missed your boy?




                Please forgive me

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                • megadeth
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by ModernTalking
                  Pac would get KO in 1, it's a fantasy fight. Always remember that Pac never win in fantasy fight.

                  Pac already beat, Barerra, Morales, Marquez, Dela Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley but in a fantasy fight he would still lose to them.
                  It's not who you fight, it's when you fight them.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by mathed
                    Well he messed the same shot, old, legless, Mosley up a heck of a lot better than Mayweather did and he apparently looked "half-azzed" while doing it too so what does that say about Floyd?
                    Lol.
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                    Mayweather landed 44% of his shots on the same backpeddeling Shane Mosley one year younger.

                    Pacquiao could only land 31% of his punches.

                    You fools take knockdowns to the heart.

                    Marquez was knocked down 3 times in the first round by Pacquiao. I guess Pacquiao messed up Marquez pretty bad? Not.


                    Oh Pascal knocked Hopkins down twice in the early rounds, Pascal really beat the hell out of Hopkins then.

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                    • Danny Gunz
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      How is Floyd bigger and stronger than SRR? SRR started as a LW who had a fight a LHW. Was also taller than Floyd. Do you think Floyd could fight as a LHW?

                      I mean I guess that could hold true for HW's. Seeing that back in the day the top HW's rareley weight more than 225 pounds. While now is rare to see a top HW who weighs less then 225 pounds.

                      But, back then a WW weighed 147, today a WW weights 147. Where is the bigger and stronger coming from? A MW now weighs 160 a MW 100 years weigh in at 160. And, you can do that for every weight-class except HW I give you that.

                      I have not seen a faster fighter yet then Camacho or Taylor. so how are fighters from today faster?

                      And, honestly can't really say that Floyd was faster than SRR, maybe had better reflexes I give you that. But, SRR had very good speed.
                      Weight is a very relative thing.

                      Yes, there were and still are WW that are at 147. And in both generations these guys at 147 (or whatever weight) varied in speed, power, and endurance.

                      Back then though those traits were severely limited due to the lack of exercise and nutrition knowledge. It was believed that running 6 miles a day and eating a steak after going to the gym was a winners routine.

                      Now we know that long distance running is essentially useless. We can eat a certain way and train a certain way to become even more athletic then we though was possible.

                      The difference is that back then a fighter at 147 fought trained to hone fundamentals rather then shape them athletically. Now we know we can manipulate our body at a weight such as 147 to be stronger and faster.

                      I concede that fighters of the older generations may be more fundamentally sound, but I think the athleticism of fighters now is more prevalent.

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